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  1. EdgarPeriera

    Concrete Column Above a Steel Beam with no support bellow?

    Sometimes the technical jargon just go over my head :( I'm not a native English speaker. But I think Dr. Google helped me on this one. I see all the points and most definably this end solution must be properly sized and calculated and not thrown to the constructor with some generic details. The...
  2. EdgarPeriera

    Concrete Column Above a Steel Beam with no support bellow?

    Good morning, Thank you all again for your various inputs. Just have one question @dik. I'm not sure what you have saying when (sic.) "I would not consider using through bolts... just looking for trouble. The concrete beam can be continuous over the concrete column with the embedded plate case...
  3. EdgarPeriera

    Concrete Column Above a Steel Beam with no support bellow?

    attached SketchUp file https://files.engineering.com/getfile.aspx?folder=3887aa17-a2a0-4e83-b9ac-a129556e1f4c&file=Something_like_this.skphttps://files.engineering.com/getfile.aspx?folder=3887aa17-a2a0-4e83-b9ac-a129556e1f4c&file=Something_like_this.skp
  4. EdgarPeriera

    Concrete Column Above a Steel Beam with no support bellow?

    Good morning all, You are giving me good inputs and drawings, I might as well draw what I see and what you are telling me. There is a lot of mixed ideas but bare with me on this one. I'm drawing mostly what the designer represented: The steel beam is a HEA 260 (260x250mm) The RC columns are...
  5. EdgarPeriera

    Concrete Column Above a Steel Beam with no support bellow?

    Well, @dik I really apreciate your inputs. I have no problem with that detail. Hoping that the detail (that I'm still waiting, hopefully next week) will be similar and includes the type of steel and weld requirements. But that will solve one question. The interruption of the concrete columns is...
  6. EdgarPeriera

    Concrete Column Above a Steel Beam with no support bellow?

    Morning all, I was really hoping to have some clarity on the subject but so far that is not the case. One thing you all somehow agree (and I also agree for that matter), it's feasible... but.. I might as well share the hole project, for obvious reasons I removed the name of the Engineer...
  7. EdgarPeriera

    Concrete Column Above a Steel Beam with no support bellow?

    @dik the He beam is encased on a ribbed slab. Those are not joists. About the connections I don't know. I'm still way ting for the details to bring some light into this...
  8. EdgarPeriera

    Concrete Column Above a Steel Beam with no support bellow?

    @phamENG thank you, I will consider your advise.. And see if the details add more meaning to the proposal.
  9. EdgarPeriera

    Concrete Column Above a Steel Beam with no support bellow?

    @Jayrod12 yes that's one of my concerns. Continuous columns make greater sense. Have you ever seen a real world example similar with the solution presented? Is it feasable?
  10. EdgarPeriera

    Concrete Column Above a Steel Beam with no support bellow?

    I believe that all that makes sense. Indeed the focal reason is the ceiling height. But the way he draws the steel beam not anchored to the columns or concrete wall. It interrupts the rc columns and new columns start from there. In theory all makes sense, but I've never seen a real world case...
  11. EdgarPeriera

    Concrete Column Above a Steel Beam with no support bellow?

    This is a new construction. All the structural element are in concrete with the exception of the detailed steel beam.
  12. EdgarPeriera

    Concrete Column Above a Steel Beam with no support bellow?

    Just to clarify, my main issue is not in having two floating columns mid span of the beam. My main issue is that those columns are RC columns on top of a steel beam. It looks like an odd hybrid solution that could be avoided...
  13. EdgarPeriera

    Concrete Column Above a Steel Beam with no support bellow?

    Good Morning all, Please help me with the image bellow. The engineer Is proposing a steel column HEA260 at "Pórtico4". The Columns P5, P6, P7, P23, P24 and P9 are ALL CR columns with 250x250mm. As a constructer I have a great deal of difficulty accepting this solution but the engineer was quite...

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