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  1. DGStavlas

    Flotation reagents preparation

    We are currently upgrading a flotation reagents preparation system which involves SIPX,Copper sulphate,sodium cyanide & lime. As I have read a typical system would include a mixing tank & a holding tank. Currently our client doesn't have a holding tank and uses two tanks that operate as mixing...
  2. DGStavlas

    Check valve type for VFD controlled pumps

    Dear georgeverghese, Check valves are only installed at the pumps discharge. At the top of the mineshaft a combination air valve will be installed. Yes the surge pressure happens when both pumps trip simultaneously.
  3. DGStavlas

    Check valve type for VFD controlled pumps

    Dear littleInch, First of all thanks for the quick response. Yes normmally we will be able to isolate the pump prior to run down / shut off and in the case of an accidental pump trip air valves and a pressure vessel would act as surge protection. Would you still prefer non slam over swing...
  4. DGStavlas

    Check valve type for VFD controlled pumps

    Dear LittleInch, Yes the application is pumping water up a mine shaft (lucky guess or succesful searching I presume [bigsmile]). The issue is the selection of the proper type of check valve. Additional info: max surge pressure around 60 bars, multistage centrifugal pumps, isolation valves...
  5. DGStavlas

    Check valve type for VFD controlled pumps

    Dear all, We are looking for the suitable type of a check valve to be installed at the discharge line of a VFD controlled pump. Our first thought was to use typical swing check valves but as I have read in some posts herein a lot of colleagues suggest the use of non slam check valves (e.g noreva...
  6. DGStavlas

    B16.5 Flanged fittings

    LittleInch, First of all thanks for the reply. I was thinking that slip on flanges are the cheaper option because my client wishes to manufacture the fittings by himself and at this case, after his demand, labour cost is not included in the budget. So in terms of capital cost only slip on are...
  7. DGStavlas

    B16.5 Flanged fittings

    Penpipper, Yes my mistake, the maximum operating pressure is 25 bar but still the maximum operating temperature is 40°C. Regarding your recommendations, I think that this is the best solution. Still I have one last question. Because of the low pressure I'm thinking to use slip-on flanges. Are...
  8. DGStavlas

    B16.5 Flanged fittings

    Penpipper, First of all thanks again for your valuable help. 1. What is the Commodity? The design has to do with a pumping station of a tailings management facility seepage collection pond. 2. What is the maximum Operating Temperature? 40°C 3. What is the maximum Operating Pressure? 16 bar 4...
  9. DGStavlas

    B16.5 Flanged fittings

    Pennpiper, The problem is that my customer wants workshop drawings for each fitting. Let me ask you one more question You wrote "It will depend on the Pressure and temperature of the commodity". Is there a problem using B16.9 and two flanges at the end? You mean that the working pressure of the...
  10. DGStavlas

    B16.5 Flanged fittings

    Dear pennpiper, First of all thank you for your quick response. I've seen some of the suppliers of rubber lined fittings but I wasn't able to understand which code they use. As I'm not responsible for the supply of the fittings I need only to deliver an iso of the piping connections and the...
  11. DGStavlas

    B16.5 Flanged fittings

    Hi all, My customer requests to design its pumping station connections with rubber lined flanged fittings. Though the flanged fittings in accordance with B16.5 are tabulated and dimensions are given I don't know whether there are suppliers that fabricate them. The other solution I was thinking...
  12. DGStavlas

    Swing Check Valve transient modelling

    Dear all for rough modelling purposes I'm looking the following info regarding a 12" class 300 swing check valve: -Cv value or Cv % vs time chart. I can only find from datasheets a single Cv value but the software needs a chart Cv vs Time something like that: Time(sec) Cv 0...
  13. DGStavlas

    Rubber lined piping

    Dear all, This is the first time I'm involved with rubber lined piping so probably I'm looking for the fundamentals.I have the following questions. -Rubber lined flanged fittings can be made of B16.9 fittings and B16.5 slip-on raised flanges ? -Flanged joints need gaskets ? -Regarding lining...
  14. DGStavlas

    FluidFlow3 or AFT

    Dear Apetri, Maybe I wasnt't so clear. I'm trying to make a comparison between fluidflow3 & the combination of AFT Fathom+AFT Arrow so as to cover most of the applications (liquid,gas,slurry etc.)
  15. DGStavlas

    FluidFlow3 or AFT

    Dear all, First of all thank you for your useful replies. To be honest money isn't an issue. The difference is about 3k. As written before after extensive search the firm I work for has narrowed down to FluidFlow3 or AFT. I'm looking for users of these software that can share their experience.
  16. DGStavlas

    FluidFlow3 or AFT

    Dear all, I am in the process of selecting a pipe flow analysis software for the firm I work for and have narrowed down to FluidFlow3 or AFT. I was wondering if anyone has personal experience in both that could offer an opinion on the drawbacks of either software. Any help is appreciated, even...
  17. DGStavlas

    Steel for pressure vessel

    I would like some help regarding metal sheet specs for the design of a pressure vessel. The specs are the following : Steel EN10028-3 Tolerances acc. to EN 10029 class B Surface condition EN10163-2 class B - subclass 3 Ultrasonic test EN10160 cat. S1,E1. The steel plates will be used for the...
  18. DGStavlas

    Mine shaft piping stress analysis

    As I was reading again all your valuable info..I came across miningman's post regarding the deltaT. In order to be sure..could you please clarify the terms ambient & operating temps.
  19. DGStavlas

    Mine shaft piping stress analysis

    LittleInch thanks for the info. I was checking again the report..and a question came in my mind.. The bottom bend is anchored at its curve point..when at the same time the last anchor from the top bend is 0,5m. I mean shouldn't be anchored at the same point. One info that might help is that I...
  20. DGStavlas

    Mine shaft piping stress analysis

    LittleInch...just for the record I didn't ask for the crane...miningman did. Just joking.. Your idea for RTP seems quite interesting..but for a future project because for this one the specs are finalized.

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