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Thanks, Redpicker. I've pretty much come to the conclusion that our ISO cert on the wall is b.s.. Without a doubt, there are quality policies and procedures that have real impact on the end product, but the "system" is so screwed up...the more you get into it, the more it becomes a self-serving...

thanks. mil-std-171 3.3.4 is the only referenced requirement. I think mil-dtl-13924 is more specific, but if it's all about meeting the paperwork requirement, it's all kind of moot. I"ve learned in my time in the QC business, that if it doesn't look right, it probably isn't. I need to trust...

well...let's say you hire a house painter, and the drywall shows through their paint job on 90% of the wall surface, but they have a piece of paper that says they did everything correctly. Would you go with the piece of paper? or what you can see instantly? The basic definitions of black...

thanks for the moral support. Unfortunately, in this economy, I"m just thankful I have a job of any sort, period. And also, sadly, the parts are so late that the customer (the direct contractor) will probably accept them without batting an eyelid. Perhaps that's how the big bad world of...

I'm the QC tech at a machine shop. We just got some parts back from an outside vendor. Cert says they underwent black oxide per mil-std-171, 3.3.4. HOWEVER, our purchase order (from the owner) requested they not give the parts an acid bath before the black oxide, to preserve the tight...