Desert fox, thanks for the article, and again, thank you everyone for hte great feeback. a lot of my investigation was dependent on that article and other published material including national standards on stud welding. Our failure seem to be classical with respect to the examples shown in this...
Hello desert fox
I am told that regardless of the stresses put on the studs, the break should always be in the stud material and not at the weld. From what I can see, and others, the break is clearly in the weld area. We don't weld ourselves, we buy these from a machine shop that cuts the...
On an earlier reply, someone wanted to see a cross section of the weld interface, I have this picture of one of the welds that did not fail before the backing plate let go.
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Here is a picture of a failed stud end of the failure
Hope this helps
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Hello desert fox, thanks for the reply.
When I sent in the pictures to a stud manufacturer (Different one than the studs used) the consensus was that it was a weld failure. This is a stud weld done with an old TR-1600 nelson stud welder.
Our torqueing procedures are inadequate so I can not tell...
again, thanks for the assistance.
To provide a few answers to the questions, what damaged the liner was that fact that it tore off of the blade at 720 RPM.
Operating temperature is approx 250 DegC, Diameter is 80"
I showed the pictures of the stud to a stud manufacturer, his assessemnet was...
All of the answers given have been very helpful
Hydtools mentonned that that double nutting was not a choice any more. Why is that, is it because there are better solutions
Tunalover just suggested a prevailing torque. In oiur applications, the operating temperature of the fans, minimum 80" in...
These are 5/8 " fine hread studs holding 70 lb fan blade liners on a 500HP fan rotating at 712 RPM. the liners are held in place with 20 1 1/2 inch studs. When properly torqued, will the nuts back off and or shouyld they be tack welded or double nutted?
Does anyone know of others that use stud...
Thank you Ron.
It is a PR 85 that we use.
Yes the failure is localized to the area under the roof leak.
the bricks are held in place on the beams in a manner in which they can move due to thermal expansion / contraction.
Even though the brick has a 2500 lb tensile strength at 68 deg F, whan...
Yes, I should not have used the word bolt because we have anchor bricks and not anchor bolts.
Yes, all of the anchorbricks were broken. They snapped of at the interface with the roof and 5" of the brick was left hanging.
Vesuvius are strugling with this and want to blame everything on water...
Thanks for the insight. What you all described above fits perfect with the failure.
Even without water, can i assume that quick heat up and cool down caused by othe reason such as a burner gun flame directed right at the refractory, would have the same result?
Is there a better way these days...
Corus, thanks for the information, in one of my postings, about 5 or 6 up from this one, i attahed a picture of how our refractroy roof is suspended. It is suspended by anchor bricks. the bricks themselves are held to beam with steel anchors. It is the bricks that broke at the contact point with...
We operate the inside of the furnace at 2200 degF so I would suspect that a tthe point wher the anchor meets the refractory is is very close to this.
large quantities of water laned in the area of the colapse s=due toa hole in the roof although there were signs of longer term thermal crack in...
The anchor bricks in question, PR-85 from snow shoe refractories are an 855 alumina brick with a specified tensile strength of 2500 psi @ 68degF (20 deg C). What happens to the tensile strength at 2200 degF. Does it go down?
Is this the right brick for the application?
Dik, thanks for the info. Did you look at the picture or the brick? Does it help?
Bad Bricks, is thee anything we as a consumer can do to ensure the quality of the brick?
Are there quality parameters, tests or SOPs that can be obtained from the manufacturer or done independently. Could we doa...
Here is a picture of the repairs showing the placement of the anchor bricks that hold up the castable refractory roof. This may help.
again, I appreciate eall of the help i have been getting on this...
I would like to thank everyone for the great feedback. This information if shedding a lot of light on this failure. the brick is only 2 1/2 years old.
I am not sure what is meant by "signs of brick facing" so I attached some pictures of the brick. Also, as Corus mentionned, thre were vertical...
We have an indurating furnace operating at 2300 deg F as part of making iron ore pellets. the roof is a castabel refractroy 9Vesuvius) and is held in suspension by anchor bricks. We experienced a roof failure where all of the achnors broke at hte interface with the refractory. 14 inch achnor...