What I picked up on when Jeff posted the first photos of the shoring poles in the garage, is that most of them were under the Generator Room, which is right above the parking ramp. I was surprised there wasn't more discussion on that.
When this collapse occurred everyone said the building...
Thermo
No reason to stop the convo, please proceed. I'm not concerned about the 'mystery' posters, merely amused...
as I'm sure the other 5 posters on this thread are.
It's a decent theory, it holds more merit than the pool deck just collapsing on it's own one night.
Are we certain all 3 of the 10.1 columns failed? I thought we'd found some of them (the bases) still upright in later analysis. Just something to double check on.
I agree we need to tie it to...
Sym P. le
There were some posts about a Duramax possibly hitting a column, and I always thought they meant in the garage...but yeah, it could have hit that column from above as well. I'll look thru my pics to see if there's any that show the front right fender area of it.
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I remember asking that early on, I think even before we had the garage video.
I think at the time I thought the wall was continuous, from the bottom and that the planter being pushed back or backed into could have dislodged the slab from the wall.
So CTS felt they needed to relocate the majority of their parking and thus applied for a permit... as far as I remember there wasn't a number of spaces listed on the permit application. If it was only a limited number of spaces like CTN, they should have just bypassed the permitting process and...
Whoa just came across this lil gem -
Engineering Catastrophes: Miami Condo Calamity
Released January 26, 2022
Season 5 Episode 10
I just started watching it on Discovery+
Edit - 15 minute segment, nothing new... they only interviewed one former tenant from the West side of the building.
There's a few more details in this article -
Showdown in Surfside collapse saga, involving federal agency, could delay trial for years
Judge gave the parties 1 week to figure out evidence sharing...
Seems the Feds and the Miami Dade Police Dept suspect there's more to this event and they're wanting NIST to find that "needle" in the proverbial haystack.
bradw1128
Thanks for the inspection report, I was just watching a video of Mayor Ed Gainy (sp) speaking to reporters as he was given false information on that inspection date, he was told September of 2021. First he said he thought it was about 2 yrs ago...
New Video
Building Integrity
Surfside Condo Claims Engineer Failed to Warn Residents - Lawsuit Analysis Part 5 of 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEwQAdSWBsE
I find the discussion of the wall being load bearing or not interesting. It may have had something to do with the pool deck collapsing.
However, the pool deck collapse did not bring down that building.
From the sequence of events it has been made clear that the Nirs and Security heard sounds...
Demented
On the 15th he ended his post with -
"What will really screw with you is in post-tension construction, it is 100% forbidden to have any load transfer on a wall."
I took that to mean he was talking about this build.
Keith 1
No one here disagrees that the membrane and it's maintenance was a big concern. But a few of us disagree with you that the perimeter wall was built to hold zero load.
I also believe you mentioned it was a post-tension build and that Josh from Building Integrity researched this and...
The southern perimeter wall where the upper parking was, that would have needed to bear some weight I would think.
The columns were larger there, but some weight would have needed to be distributed along the wall as well...and that did collapse.
Those beams that were in the plans but left out...
