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  1. jjr1111

    high vibrations in pd pump, gearbox, motor combo on movable base

    Thanks for the responses, the "reduced speed" spectra was a error on my part.. I collected two sets of readings at full speed and one at a reduced speed for acceleration and velocity. I uploaded both of the full speed readings and omitted the reduced speed reading by accident. As an update it...
  2. jjr1111

    piping vibrations

    I'll stick to one forum going forward, but to respond to both comments, it's a lobe style pump. A Waukesha Cherry Burrell Universal 2 series pump. I'm not sure I understand what "it needs an acceleration factor specific to the pump type" means? The fluid is run through a heat exchanger so...
  3. jjr1111

    high vibrations in pd pump, gearbox, motor combo on movable base

    Thanks for the feedback on the slack and bearing condition, I'll read through the IOM and get familiar with what that process to check for slack entails.
  4. jjr1111

    high vibrations in pd pump, gearbox, motor combo on movable base

    reduced speed acceleration datahttps://files.engineering.com/getfile.aspx?folder=9cc75a2b-3d4a-4edf-9501-7da2310d9838&file=acceleration_reduced_speed.JPG
  5. jjr1111

    high vibrations in pd pump, gearbox, motor combo on movable base

    reduced speed vibration motor datahttps://files.engineering.com/getfile.aspx?folder=296cd825-1eca-4c7d-b92b-6ca5b9952ea1&file=velocity_reduced_speed.JPG
  6. jjr1111

    high vibrations in pd pump, gearbox, motor combo on movable base

    Accelerationhttps://files.engineering.com/getfile.aspx?folder=6568a7ca-820e-4a63-8b63-293dfcadfd8f&file=acceleration_100%.JPG
  7. jjr1111

    high vibrations in pd pump, gearbox, motor combo on movable base

    Hey Heaviside, operating the pump at full speed gave the initial velocity and acceleration reading I posted, but it also runs at reduced speeds for short periods of time, when at these reduced speeds, the vibration is significantly reduced. I was able to capture pump vibration and acceleration...
  8. jjr1111

    high vibrations in pd pump, gearbox, motor combo on movable base

    Pic attached up the setuphttps://files.engineering.com/getfile.aspx?folder=fd6eebaa-2abb-47e2-a059-b71170aab6ac&file=pump_gb_motor.JPG
  9. jjr1111

    piping vibrations

    Have a filtering system that is experiencing vibrations and was posting for into in the vibration forum, but and wondering if it could be related to piping system design so wanted to post up here too. The setup is a PD pump that pumps fluid from a tank through a filter and returns to the...
  10. jjr1111

    high vibrations in pd pump, gearbox, motor combo on movable base

    So had a look at the pump this morning, it is mounted as it calls out in the manual. Both the pump and gearbox are mounted to the plate, the motor is directly mounted to the gearbox. The motor around 1350rpm, and is gear box reduced to around 347rpm. One thing I'm not sure on is the pump has...
  11. jjr1111

    high vibrations in pd pump, gearbox, motor combo on movable base

    Thanks for the feedback, I wish I would have taken a picture of the gearbox, it might have been mounted to the plate in addition to the pump. I know for a fact the motor was not mounted and just resting on jack screws, but I'm starting to think maybe the gearbox was mounted to the plate too...
  12. jjr1111

    high vibrations in pd pump, gearbox, motor combo on movable base

    When converting assumed RMS to pk-pk now get the attached, not sure what to make of this. Probalby just need to go back and remeasure and look at the frequency data..https://files.engineering.com/getfile.aspx?folder=13356998-f2d2-4743-8f75-f55ba816cfdf&file=calc.JPG
  13. jjr1111

    high vibrations in pd pump, gearbox, motor combo on movable base

    When I put the velocity and acceleration data info into the calculator for the pump (1.02 in/s and .385g) I get 23.19 Hz, which is 1391rpm, and that is close to 4X pump speed so that does make sense that what I'm seeing is pulsations from the pump assuming that you do get 4 pulsations per...
  14. jjr1111

    high vibrations in pd pump, gearbox, motor combo on movable base

    Interesting calculator, definately helps show how velocity and acceleration are related to frequency. The mfg info for this positive displacement pump states it's is a rotary pump using a circumferential piston operating principle. Here's the Link. to the type of pump I'll have to double...
  15. jjr1111

    high vibrations in pd pump, gearbox, motor combo on movable base

    Oh, thanks for the info, I learned something new. Talking with others here we don't use pulsation dampers because it's on a sterile system and there's concerns for contamination, so safe to say that the prior application didn't have one either. I'll reach out to the pump MFG and see what's...
  16. jjr1111

    high vibrations in pd pump, gearbox, motor combo on movable base

    It is not a firm attachment for motor to base, the motor is just resting on the jack screws. I can try backing them off and see what happens
  17. jjr1111

    high vibrations in pd pump, gearbox, motor combo on movable base

    Motor vibration attached toohttps://files.engineering.com/getfile.aspx?folder=f29693ee-6b20-446b-b5a1-e53130be9573&file=UF_motor.bmp
  18. jjr1111

    high vibrations in pd pump, gearbox, motor combo on movable base

    Heaviside1925 - When you say if it's not a pulsation issue can you elaborate on what you mean by that. For reference, this pump was recently added to replace a much smaller pump, and it is oversized for the application. This pump sends fluid through a ultra filtration system, essentially a...
  19. jjr1111

    high vibrations in pd pump, gearbox, motor combo on movable base

    Have a application that flagged high for vibration and unsure how to proceeded. Vibration testing gave the following readings: motor NDE - 1.494 ips, .11g. pump - .365 ips, 1.02g Pump is a PD pump is mounted to baseplate 1" thick on wheels. Gearbox and motor are direct coupled and not mounted...
  20. jjr1111

    self priming pump loosing prime

    Just to give some closure on this one, was able to reorient the discharge line from the pump to spray out against the sump basin wall instead of down at the inlet, hoping to mitigate any air entrainment that would have previously entered the inlet. To date the pumps have been running well, and...

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