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  1. Berenger

    Thermal Relief Load

    Hi all, My question is straight forward. Can you size a thermal relief valve FOR GAS ONLY SYSTEM? If yes, how do you calculate the load requirement? I have gone through API 520 and 521, and nowhere do they discuss or explain thermal relief for a gas only system. I know 521 section 5.14 talks...
  2. Berenger

    PSV Sizing Flowrate? Actual Vs Design

    Hi experts, I have a few questions about PSV sizing. I got some drawings and datasheets from a vendor for a fuel gas skid and I don't think the vendor calculations are correct. I will appreciate if you can help me with answers to the following questions: (1) Fuel gas skid is designed for a...
  3. Berenger

    Can a Thermal Relief Valve be Discharged Into the Pump Suction Line

    I have a facility set up as shown in the attachment. It is a crude oil pump station. Oil comes in, it is metered and it is pumped to another facility. We have valves on the suction and discharge side of the pump. To account for thermal relief we have installed a TRV on both the suction and...
  4. Berenger

    Liquid Pump Blocked Outlet Sizing Flow Criteria

    Hi, I am sizing relief valves for liquid system for the first time. I usually work with natural gas. I know the code/standard and the equations and I can calculate orifice sizes. However, I do have a question regarding blocked outlet on a pump. The facility is a pump station with 18 inch...
  5. Berenger

    Pipeline System Relief Scenarios

    Hi all, I am working on a crude pipeline transporting around 3000 barrels/hour of crude. I have done the system relief analysis, but have a few of questions: Is blocked outlet a credible scenario? Especially at pump discharges? If not, why? Finally, if sizing blocked discharge on a pump, do...
  6. Berenger

    Sump Siting and Design

    Hi, Can anyone help me with how to size a sump? I have searched extensively for this and the only things that come up have to do with aquariums and aquatics. So, how do I size a sump? What volumes do I use? Low level of all the vessels? Also, how do you decide between an open or closed...
  7. Berenger

    Low Pressure Vessel Pressure Protection

    Hi everyone, We are installing a new low pressure 2-phase separator in the field. The operating P is around 120 psig. The pipeline and the vessel are to 1375 psig @ 185 F. I had a discussion with another engineer on how best to protect this vessel. His point is that since the operating P is...
  8. Berenger

    Fractionation Train Design And Operation

    Hi all, I am designing a fractionation train to recover ethane, propane and butanes. Can anyone help me with typical condenser pressures and temperatures? Also, I have substantial methane in the deethanizer distillate stream that I would like to remove to get pure ethane. Can anyone help me...
  9. Berenger

    TEG As A Heat Transfer Medium

    I recently came across a P&ID that shows a shell and tube heat exchanger. In addition to increasing the temperature of the natural gas with the steam, the P&ID shows TEG going into the exchanger as a heat transfer fluid. Does anyone have a practical knowledge of how this process work? Not how...
  10. Berenger

    Valve Coefficient for a Back Pressure Valve

    Hi everyone, I am trying to calculate the CV for a back pressure valve (BPV). I have a BPV holding the pressure in a vessel to 50 psig, i.e the BPV is set at 50 psig. How do I calculate the CV for the valve? CV is dependent on the inlet pressure and pressure drop. However, since we have a BPV...
  11. Berenger

    Pressure Drop Across An ESDV

    Hi all, I am back with one more question (a simple one for those with experience) and will appreciate any help. I am doing a sizing exercise for a gas plant and need to size some shutdown valves for a client. What pressure drop will be used in the CV calculations? Is it the operating pressure...
  12. Berenger

    Stream Properties in Promax

    Good day everyone, I do require some assistance on some datasheets that I am working on. The data sheets are for valves and a couple of the properties required are specific gravity and viscosity. As we all know Promax does not give these values for the overall streams but, instead, gives the...
  13. Berenger

    Determination of Tank Vapors Using ProMax

    I need help from anyone who's familiar with ProMax. I have a tank that gives off 2.169 mscfd of vapors (according to ProMax). Naturally, I thought this will be the volume we need to size for the flare (small flare solely for this tank vapor). However, I was told that that is not the volume...
  14. Berenger

    Tank Blanket Gas Requirement

    Hi all, I am trying to estimate the flue gas requirement for a proposed plant. I have been able to determine all FG needed for all processes except tank blanketing purposes. People have directed me to API 2000, but it doesn't give you the blanket gas needed. API 2000 is used to calculate vent...
  15. Berenger

    Tank Blanket Gas Requirement

    Hi all, I am trying to estimate the flue gas requirement for a proposed plant. I have been able to determine all FG needed for all processes except tank blanketing purposes. People have directed me to API 2000, but it doesn't give you the blanket gas needed. API 2000 is used to calculate vent...
  16. Berenger

    Full And Reduced Port

    When do you use reduced port valves and when do use full port ones? I'm working with a client that has same size of both types of valves, but there is nothing in their specification that explains when to use a reduced or full port. I asked for their preference, but they said it's up to me. I...
  17. Berenger

    B31.3 Help

    I have just read ASME B31.3 for the second time and understand all other aspects of the standard, except calculating pipe size. I can't find any section in the standard (B31.3) that deals with pipeline OD (or ID) calculations. The closest I can see is to determine the pipe thickness and work...
  18. Berenger

    PIPE SIZING (DIAMETER)

    I have just read ASME B31.3 for the second time and understand all other aspects of the standard, except calculating pipe size. I can't find any section in the standard (B31.3) that deals with pipeline OD (or ID) calculations. The closest I can see is to determine the pipe thickness and work...
  19. Berenger

    Help!!! B31.3 Line Sizing Assistance

    I posted this on the mechanical engineering forum, but got no assistance. So I thought I'd re-post here and, hopefully, get some help. ==========================================================================================================================================Can anyone explain...
  20. Berenger

    B31.3 Line Sizing

    Can anyone explain explain the principal difference between B31.3 and B31.8. I know 3 is for plant piping while 8 is for gas transmission, but that is the extent of my knowledge. I also created a line list based on the pipe schedule found at http://www.engineersedge.com/pipe_schedules.htm, but...

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