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  1. farale

    Earth bus segregation

    Dear All, Is it required to have separate earth buses for "protection earth" and "instrument earth"? I know that the earth grid is the same for both. But as per IEEE 1050, we have two separate earth bus. As per IEC 61000-5-2 all earth busbars shall be connected to each other in each storey of a...
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    Earth pit?

    Hi everybody, Assume that there are two earth pits. Resistance of each of them is 20 Ohms (Calculated and measured). We connect an Ohmmeter to these two pits. Assuming negligible resistance for wires which connect Ohmmeter to pits, what will be measured value? Does it depend on distance...
  3. farale

    Connecting PE to IE

    dear all, We have three types of earthing systems in our project: protection (power) earth, instrument (clean) earth, and lightning protection earth. Usually we provide separate earth pits for each type. Earth pits for PE are connected to eaxh other, but not connected to earth pits of clean...
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    IEC60909 vs IEC61363

    Dear All, The IEC60909 is usually used for short circuit calculations in industrial premises. It is applicable for meshed and unmeshed networks; for 3 phase as well as unsymmetrical faults; for far or near to generator faults. It seems that we can use it everywhere. But there is another...
  5. farale

    Too high current

    Hi everybody No-load & full-load currents of a new motor are too high. What can be the reason? Motor is: 7.5kW, 50Hz, 4 pole, full load current as per nameplate is 15A, but it is actually 24A. Measured no-load current is 10A. Motor is new. I have checked the terminal box and certainly the power...
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    Acceptable relay input

    Dear All, Many digital relays accept 0 to 1 A in their inputs for functions 50, 51, 37, etc. But what is maximum acceptable input value for a relay? As you know, current transformers saturate in case of short circuit. So they limit input current of relays. To select current transformer, we...
  7. farale

    Ith and Idyn for protection relays

    Dear All- What are normal values for Ith (thermal current) and Idyn (dynamic current) of protection relays?
  8. farale

    Correction factor for cable sizing

    Dear All, Power cables installed beside each other, can not tolerate as much current as a single piece of cable. It is due to thermal effect of each cable on the others. IEC 60364 and IEC 60502 have specified correction factors for such arrangements. I am going to put two layers of cables...
  9. farale

    Cable connection

    Dear All, I have a cable which it's bending radius is non-standard and too high. So we cannot connect it to the motor. An idea is to remove its external sheath and armour. So it should be possible to bend the cable more easily. What do you think? Is this method technically acceptable? The...
  10. farale

    Modbus for Sepam

    Dear All, I am going to read status of protection system (fault / no fault) from a Schneider Sepam relay via Modbus. Unfortunately I do not know which memory address should be read. I am able to read analogue signals (voltage, power factor, etc) but status of faults cannot be found in...
  11. farale

    Instrument Security Factor

    Hi, What does the "1FS10" mean on nameplate of a current transformer? "FS10" should be it's Instrument Security Factor and means after 10*Ip, the CT will saturate. But what is the "1" before "FS"? I have seen 3FS5, 0.5FS10, etc. Are they based on IEC60044? Thanks all
  12. farale

    Prevent racking a breaker

    Dear All, I have seen the following sentence about available interlocks in ABB's Installation and maintenance instructions for UniSafe: "Locking electromagnet on the apparatus truck to prevent racking-in/out without power." It seems that UniSafe prevents a breaker's truck from racking, if...
  13. farale

    should I use both element 51 and element 49 for the same motor?

    There is some discussions about using function 51 (time delay overcurrent) and function 49 (machine thermal relay) for motors. Is it required or reasonable to use both for a large motor? I have seen some plants which use both together, but only for motors > 1MW. Some others use only 49.
  14. farale

    Necessity of Lockout relay for motor protection

    Dear All, In some plants, all motor temperature faults are sent to a lockout relay. For example the "time overcurrent relay" (51) function is latched by lockout. In my point of view, faults which are serious and permanent should be latched. Including: short circuit (50), earth leakage (50G)...

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