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I'd say a 10 year prediction is probably naive... I think it was 2011 when the Structural I and II exams were dropped and the S.E. exam was introduced, and that change was first announced about 2 years prior to that to allow states to start to make provisions for the change. The concept isn't...

Yeah I suppose they are a lost cause, at least until everyone on their current Board dies and gets replaced by a new generation. I'm making another plea within my application to tell them how nonsensical this whole thing is and counterproductive it is to the logic of examination in your area of...

TehMightyEngineer, Just curious if you ever got a response to your letter? I'm filling out a new application to NJ - this time to take a whole new P.E. exam and not apply through comity. Ugh.

Excellent letter, professionally stated. Not sure how anyone could disagree with that logic presented. If you ever get a chance to get in a discussion with a specific person on the Board, Karl W. Reidel is their Executive Director who wrote me the letter explaining their position.

I'm an engineer for a precast manufacturer and can say with a fair amount of confidence that cutting the flange in the outer quarters of the span (i.e., near the ends) should not be a problem at all in terms of overall flexural or shear strength of the member, but you have to be careful about...

Yeah it really is unfortunate since it's counterproductive to what the Board's real goal should be - to allow good, competent, and qualified engineers to practice and to keep the bad ones out. I struggle to come up with the right word for it. Is there a word that combines "unfortunate" with...

TehMightyEngineer, Yeah, unfortunately the end result is not good for you or myself. Sforesman and I were able to get in touch and he is on a committee that features members of NCEES and some other national councils that are very up to date on the entire topic of SE licensure and states that...

Thanks, Hokie93, that's good to know their stance. I see what you're saying now. That type of insight is exactly what I was hoping to learn on here. That makes me wonder if any of the NJ Board members are connected with NPSE and share the same stance. I had been thinking (or at least hoping)...

Hokie93, My hope is that any statement would be written to the extent that the 16-hour SE exam should be deemed an acceptable alternative to the other 8-hour PE exams (which are also discipline-specific) for PE licensure in states that do not have discipline-specific licenses. It would have to...

sforesman was able to track me down today and his committee is going to discuss this topic at their next meeting, which coincidentally happens to be coming up very soon. I'm quite hopeful and optimistic that their organization will have enough clout to at least get states like New Jersey to...

sforesman, I missed the original post. You can probably find me on google pretty easily though now that I think about it.

Archie264, Never thought of it from that perspective, but you're right that these guys might be dumb as a fox about rejecting the S.E. exam. New Jersey certainly is a unique state from a business and labor perspective, to say the least. That's some great advice about the Port Authority, I...

sforesman, That would be amazing to get some support from a larger organization. I feel like that would be much more effective and taken more seriously than just a single disgruntled engineer being denied licensure. I don't know of any PM system on this forum, and their rules state not to...

I would be seriously hesitant to use some sort of custom designed coupler that you are looking at as opposed to tried and true proprietary devices used successfully all over the world. I'm sure your production manager has good reasoning for his feelings about the lack of safety about...

TehMightyEngineer, I'll see where I get with exhausting all possibilities to get them to recognize the SE exam, and if they don't I will definitely make an effort to get them to reevaluate their current regulations with a letter at the very least, and possibly try to get one of the local...

That is a good point, Mike, thanks for the reminder. It will help me keep composure in my follow up to the Board. On the other hand though, the same language about either the "P.E. exam" or "Principles and Practice exam" is written virtually the same in all 7 of the other jurisdictions that...

All forms of the 8-hour P.E. exams are specialized to a specific field to a very large degree, and yet all result the exact same P.E. license being granted so I can't think it's that NJ has it out for structural engineers that don't know anything about storm water systems. I seriously doubt...

No, New Jersey doesn't do temporary licenses. It's the real deal or nothing at all with them.

Good analogy Archie, and my boss said something to the same effect. My company absolutely needs me to get licensed in NJ, so somehow or another I need to get it figured out. It's already causing our business problems by how long it has taken. By retaking the P.E. I would be looking at...

That head bashing against the brick wall emoticon sums it up perfectly. I didn't even bother explaining the 8 month process I went through with New Jersey just to get them to review my application. But suffice it to say, they're the flag bearer of governmental incompetence. I haven't yet...