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  1. karp2005gmail.com

    Thickened edge slab for barn

    Dik, actually that is no need: I missed that pier is not freestanding but embedded in the earth and supported by slab from shifting inwards. Side and front/back walls work as diaphragm already what I did not take into consideration in my calculations. Basically after talking to some engineer he...
  2. karp2005gmail.com

    Thickened edge slab for barn

    Hi Dik, barn is 30x40. On long wall spacing is 20ft between columns. I assumed load is applied on pier only without slab to simplify. Wall is 14ft high. On the most loaded pier loads are next: Deadload is 2651 lb live: 10975 lb. Wind: 2352 lb. Pier size is 4'x4', 42in deep. For calculations I...
  3. karp2005gmail.com

    Thickened edge slab for barn

    Thanks everyone for reply. Will answer my question myself: after I recalculated wind load, it happened that pad is not enough to to hold tip over: thereby slab is working here. But if take into consideration slab even just with pin hair, it should do the job. Thereby answer should be:option (b)...
  4. karp2005gmail.com

    Thickened edge slab for barn

    >>>Ask the structural engineer responsible for the design. I do not have that option.
  5. karp2005gmail.com

    Thickened edge slab for barn

    Thanks all for reply, 1. I'm owner and builder. 2. On drawing detail supplied by the building manufacturer they are not looks independent. That's why I have question. 3. Wall doesn't support any load directly by my understanding: all columns are located on piers. But pier with wall going to be...
  6. karp2005gmail.com

    Thickened edge slab for barn

    my state require "rat wall" what is 2ft deep minimum to exclude animals live under the slab, so it is not big difference for contractor if it is 2ft or 4ft from pouring side. for unheated building if go with shallow foundation amount of soil need to be extracted is around the same, since foam...
  7. karp2005gmail.com

    Thickened edge slab for barn

    I'm building foundation for steel barn, manufacturer recommended slab with piers for columns. Contractor asking to pour in 2 pours since edge of slab should go 42 in deep till frostline. I have attached a and b (his recommendation how to separate). I think both of this options should be fine...

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