In Canada, our EETs can become certified technologists with a minimum of two years of post-secondary education and two years of relevant working experience. Various colleges in Canada also offer bachelor degrees in applied technology, and these degrees are generally not considered equivalent to...
"Throw the academics and the employers out of the engineering institutions (at leats in the UK)...."
This isn't going to happen. After-all, these institutions are built by academics for academics. Employer groups usually have their own industry associations too.
A more effective approach for...
I agree with many posters here that the misuse of the title "engineer" is a big issue, especially where the industrial exemption applies. When one examines how other professions effectively control the use of their titles, it is easy to see the situation we engineers currently face is a symptom...
buzzp wrote:
"based on your 30 years of working experience, your published books, and your chair of ____ IEEE committee, would you say that ____". It can go the other way very easily....."
In Canada, the type of expert witness you described above is typically a university professor. In...
buzzp wrote:
"..Unlicensed engineers are allowed to testify in a court of law...."
In Canada, engineering is a regulated profession. By law, most engineer are licensed. The provision of expert testimony and advising on an engineering matter in a court of law might be regarded as practicing...
buzzp,
No one here is suggesting the licensing system should replace CSA and UL approvals for products. It is common routine practice for PEngs to specify CSA or UL-C approved components wherever possible in the complex systems they are responsible for.
Professional engineers also bring added...
"...You can expect to see a large exodous of OEMs leaving Canada due to the costs associated with getting all your engineers licensed. And what does this mean? Nothing except potential heartache for engineers...."
buzzp,
Where is your proof that the licensing of Ontario engineers leads to...
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"...(3) Subsections (1) and (2) do not apply to prevent a person,
(a) from doing an act that is within the practice of professional engineering in relation to machinery or equipment, other than equipment of a structural nature, for use in the facilities of the person's employer in the...