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  1. JASON8102

    Part number Scheme

    I'm not one for significant numbers either. However, I'm told we need to have a little intelligence in the numbering scheme. So the first example is what I came up with. I would rather go to one model that has all my configurations and descriptions for that piece of hardware instead of...
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    Part number Scheme

    Have a meeting in 2hrs to discuss part numbering and models. Which numbering method / solidworks model configuration would you like better: WST-1000 (MAIN WELDSTUD PART NUMBER AND MODEL) WST-1000-1 1/4-20 X .50" WST-1000-2 1/4-20 X .75" WST-1000-3 10-32 X .50" WST-1000-4 10-32 X 1.0" (OF...
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    Solidworks Bills of Materials

    Updraft- Totally agree on the paint. I'm one that is saying just use an excel sheet in the drawing to call these variations out....add and change using that. Jason Schultz Mechanical Engineer Yaskawa Electric America "It's got to be 5pm somewhere!"
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    Solidworks Bills of Materials

    GWUBS- I agree. Here's what someone at work wants to do. We design enclosures. These enclosures might have different doors, some get different rainshields, different amounts of fans, ect. Even different paint colors (so he wants to make dummy models of the paint so they pop up in the bill of...
  5. JASON8102

    Solidworks Bills of Materials

    Don't get me wrong I use configurations of parts and some simple assemblies. The "physical" aspects of configurations is great in SW. But the Configured BOM part, I find just becomes a headache to maintain. Jason Schultz Mechanical Engineer Yaskawa Electric America "It's got to be 5pm somewhere!"
  6. JASON8102

    Solidworks Bills of Materials

    We don't manufacture here we have vendors make our enclosures for us. All prints require a BOM in engineering here. In my opinion the Config. BOMS work ok for something small, but when you get into the larger assemblies and variations 1.) It takes up a lot of space on a drawing sheet, 2.) They...
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    Solidworks Bills of Materials

    How many people out there use configured bills of material in Solidworks with assemblies containing 10 parts or more? What's people's opinion of using configured bills of material in Solidworks? Jason Schultz Mechanical Engineer Yaskawa Electric America "It's got to be 5pm somewhere!"
  8. JASON8102

    UL Type 3R or Type 12 rated quarter turn latche

    yep they won't sell us just the latches because we are also an enclosure manufacturer. They want us to either buy their cabinet or have them make our cabinets for us. We get better pricing through some of our other sheetmetal vendors then Hoffman. Jason Schultz Mechanical Engineer Yaskawa...
  9. JASON8102

    UL Type 3R or Type 12 rated quarter turn latche

    I'm aware of the ratings and what they equal. However we need to buy an off the shelf latch that has been listed by UL all ready. Otherwise we have to pay for the testing of the latch design we come up with. Jason Jason Schultz Mechanical Engineer Yaskawa Electric America "It's got to be 5pm...
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    UL508A Barriers Used with Ventilation Openings

    In the UL508A guidline for Industrial Control panels, section 22 discusses barriers used with ventilation openings. If anyone is familar with this standard, section 22.4 reads "A barrier of polycarbonate shall be at least .125" thick. A NONMETALLIC BARRIER OTHER THEN POLYCARBONATE SHALL BE AT...
  11. JASON8102

    UL Type 3R or Type 12 rated quarter turn latche

    Anyone know of an off the shelf quarter turn latch that is rated/passed UL Type 3R or Type 12 rating? Jason Schultz Mechanical Engineer Yaskawa Electric America "It's got to be 5pm somewhere!"
  12. JASON8102

    Bill Of Material Standard for Drawings

    Matt and Chris both have it right. And that's what I wanted to make sure, as I write our company "standards" as well. Thanks guys! Jason Schultz Mechanical Engineer Yaskawa Electric America "It's got to be 5pm somewhere!"
  13. JASON8102

    Bill Of Material Standard for Drawings

    EWH- The problem with "standards" is that they don't get updated as new technology comes into play! Some of the ANSI standards still talk about drawing in layers, line types, line weights ect......well if you are still in those dark ages then ya, live and die by those standards I guess. Jason...
  14. JASON8102

    Bill Of Material Standard for Drawings

    Ok here's an example of what I'm talking about. I'm saying there's no reason for a BOM on this print. Item 1 would be obvious, item 2 would be the pemnuts of course. In the title block we give material to made from, but I have deleted the title block from the picture. We send this out to be...
  15. JASON8102

    Bill Of Material Standard for Drawings

    MadMango- I am talking about purchased vs. manufactured. We don't manufacture parts, we engineer them and buy them. We use SAP, we do control our documents in there and materials. HOWEVER, I don't control weldstuds, pemnuts, ect that are used by the vendor to make my parts. I think you and I...
  16. JASON8102

    Bill Of Material Standard for Drawings

    Well the post started off as who does this and doesn't. So far I have 4 people that have said they would use a BOM. The way I have described I know isn't wrong, I have been doing this for 15+ years. I have done it both ways. I AGREE, that if I was the one manufacturing a flat bar stock with...
  17. JASON8102

    Bill Of Material Standard for Drawings

    Yaskawa is far from a small company. Japan where our corporate office is, does this type of drawing as well....weldnuts will just be noted on the print, no BOM on the drawing. What we recieve in is the completed item form the vendor. We don't recieve pemnuts or weldnuts or permanent hardware...
  18. JASON8102

    Bill Of Material Standard for Drawings

    welments contain specific parts and/or drawings to build. Like the weldment of an enclosure there is a top,bottom, LH, and RH sides....a bom would be required here. However if I have flat stock with 2 weldnuts in it I'm saying why do I have to make a BOM with the weldnut part numbers. Add a...
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    Bill Of Material Standard for Drawings

    KENAT- to then follow those great standards that have been written, there should be a "Part number" in the BOM format, we then need to "make-up" basically part numbers for stuff that we don't need to, and maintain yet another data base for that. Not efficent. Jason Schultz Mechanical Engineer...
  20. JASON8102

    Bill Of Material Standard for Drawings

    Lets try this thread I started a different way by breaking it down better. Forget about ANSI and ASME standards for a min. How many engineers if making a drawing of a part with 2 weldstuds, or pemnuts, ect...some type of permanent hardware to the part don't use a bill of material on their...
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