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  1. randyman

    Dual rated CT

    In the US, a dual-rated CT is one that has a protection class and a metering class, and should be tested to verify both at the factory. A "two-core" is referred to as a dual-core CT which is two separate cores contained in one housing.
  2. randyman

    automatic test set for instrument transformers

    When using portable CT test sets keep one thing in mind - what are you accomplishing with it?? I will tell you that the IEEE C57.13 and IEC 61869 standards require testing be performed at rated current at rated power frequency. Manufacturers are mandated to assure extreme accuracy and many...
  3. randyman

    Cable Fill in a Ground / Zero Sequence CT?

    The Siemens article is referring to placement of conductors in general when there is plenty of space which is not really same as in your condition. In your case however, all conductors fill the window area and as long as the conductors are rated for the CT class, 0.6kV for example, then you...
  4. randyman

    FINDING A CORRECT BUSHING CT RATIO FOR A GSU TRANSFORMER

    They are mounted inside the tank in IEEE-land as well. BCTs in general, are indoor type construction and the environment depends on the device they are going on. For example, in a power breaker they are dry-type mounted external of the interrupter but always under a protective shell/cover. In...
  5. randyman

    FINDING A CORRECT BUSHING CT RATIO FOR A GSU TRANSFORMER

    OK Scott, so you are playing the RF game. If this were a dry-type CT I would tend to agree with you. However, this is a GSU so the BCT will be under hot transformer oil at 80C average and possibly higher. So with class A insulation and trying to limit a BCTs rise to 20-25C under those...
  6. randyman

    FINDING A CORRECT BUSHING CT RATIO FOR A GSU TRANSFORMER

    Hey Scott, just curious ... why would metering making it any different?? From a technical perspective, metering and/or protection class wouldn't change a thing except how I would test it. Unless you are looking for a more "preferred" ratio??
  7. randyman

    FINDING A CORRECT BUSHING CT RATIO FOR A GSU TRANSFORMER

    It is often better to select the CT ratio to be higher than the max rated current it is measuring. in this case there is nothing wrong with specifying 7000:5 or higher ratio. The Rating Factor (RF) of the CT should be coordinated with the rated continuous current of the bushing, not exceeding...
  8. randyman

    CT Magnetizing current

    As part of Class X spec is also the secondary winding resistance. And when determining the desired operating knee voltage the interal IR drop of the CT must also be considered. So to add to Scott's exapmle, Vk > 40 X (Rs + 4 Ohms). I agree with Scott that the exciting current is seldom a...
  9. randyman

    Core Balance CT Question

    From A CT manufacturer's perspective... With low ratio window-type CTs that are used strictly in a core balance scheme (all 3 conductors passing thru window), let the buyer beware!! I encountered the DOs and DON'Ts of these CTs long before that GE article was written and I can tell you that...
  10. randyman

    BIL Rating on 600V and Below

    What ratings are you speaking of?? Voltage transformers made to IEEE C57.13 for 600V class (and less) have a 10kV BIL requirement.
  11. randyman

    Question about: IEEE C57.13.1-2006, clause: 16.3 Inter-core coupling check

    Greetings Scottf, The words Jimmy used to describe the test are verbatim as in C57.13.1, in fact it is entire 16.3 as published. My question to you is in the test itself. At what levels of induction do you take the CT while performing this "inter-core coupling test"?? The standard doesn't...
  12. randyman

    Question about: IEEE C57.13.1-2006, clause: 16.3 Inter-core coupling check

    Hello JimmyXWang, Let me first comment on the referenced thread from Nov 10, 2010 - It looks as if the OP was not performing the test correctly and may not have been using a high-Z voltmeter like C57.13.1 suggests, but who really knows as there was very little discussion on the method. As for...
  13. randyman

    Quick question on mag curves.

    Veritas is exactly correct. And I might add to assure saturation you can take it up to the rated secondary current times its rating factor. That induction level should be high enough to remove any significant residual magnetism that may be in the core. If you want to test that theory then...
  14. randyman

    Bushing CT Grounds

    Bushing CTs made in USA, in general, do not have a ground connection from the core. The core is fully insulated from the secondary winding. Dry-type BCTs which are found on HV power circuit breakers are usually installed under the bushing flange and protected by an aluminum shell isolated...
  15. randyman

    Core Balance CT

    zimmerDN, I cannot speak for all CT makers but I can speak for those that I have personally been involved with - with regards to zero sequence GF CTs they are wound in a different manner than a typical CT. In ZSGF all three phases pass thru the window, and it is possible to have unequal line...
  16. randyman

    Current transformer class 5L400

    My educated guess based on CSA (Canadian) and older IEEE/ANSI (USA) standard nomenclature for protection class CTs: 5 = composite error (5%) at the accuracy limiting factor (ALF) which in this case might be 20 L = low leakage design, i.e., ring-type core with fully distributed windings 400 =...
  17. randyman

    Main CT - Minimum burden?

    derek22 - "...in case that the CT secondary is opened accidentally". Are you refering to the aux CT's secondary circuit here??
  18. randyman

    Main CT - Minimum burden?

    derek22 - A CT works best with minimal burden, therefore a short circuit provides its best accuracy performance. I am confused as to why the aux CT is there, is it not connected to anything other than the main CT secondary?? And you mentioned easy removal without disturbing the main CT - you...
  19. randyman

    Current Transformer Questions

    Hello 111R, With regards to metering CTs don't always assume they too, will saturate at fault levels. That depends on the type of CT (wound-type or window-type) and the current ratio. Many window-type CTs have enough capacity to drive a low burden well over 20 times rated current without even...
  20. randyman

    Current Transformer Questions

    Hello Scottf, I figured you would figure it out sooner ot later. I did talk to a few of your colleagues in Orlando this last week but did not get to meet you face to face. Maybe some other time?? It's funny you bring up routine testing because the standard does not say to test at Vse or...
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