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Isn't a code intended to be more objective than that? Will that fly before an ethics board? Joe PE: "I interpreted things my way." Ethics Board: "Oh. Well, OK then." Shouldn't the code be explainable to clients? I am not looking to get into the situation of operating in secret. But if a...

image from www.hiren.info Why did the horse die? Maybe it died for lack of water. I think that the three categories of answers provided in defense of the provision were refuted. The notion that the provision in the code of ethics is anti-competitive finally crystallized for me. That makes...

Perhaps more accurately, assertions that weren't accepted at face value have been left unexplained. I don't recall seeing an explanation for the assertion that it is "courteous" only to let someone know that I am looking at their work. Why am I not discourteous if I leave them in the dark...

So is a random code equivalent to a reasoned code? What is a good reason for requiring only engineers in private practice to expose themselves to personal retaliation via the limited kind of notice required by the code of ethics? Isn't that a anti-competitive provision? Engineers in a large...

I started this thread with the question: "What is the thinking behind this part of the NSPE's Code of Ethics?" I think that the answers so far boil down to the following: 1. It is the "courteous" thing to do. 2. It prevents reviews from happening in secret. 3. It promotes a free exchange of...

According to what I understood from tonight's episode of "60 Minutes" on CBS, lawyers may be ethically-bound to put loyalty to a client ahead of justice being done. At what point does the level of "courtesy" that I should (for reasons which remain unclear to me) extend to another engineer end...

Thus, the code of ethics discriminates against smaller (and/or non-technical) companies who are clients of engineers. A mom and pop operation isn't likely to have engineers on staff and they aren't as likely to pay another fee for another engineer to become involved. There probably isn't...

True enough. I think the same provision in the code of ethics applies to both. Okay. It has to do with the type of the company. Joe P.E. does an office HVAC project for a bunch of doctors. They have no engineers on staff. Jim P.E. does a similar project for Lucent Techologies. They are a...

That's because you agree with the NSPE document, as written. I don't. It seems burdensome (what kind of documentation do I need to prove that I contacted the other engineer?), potentially inflammatory (as zdas04's story illustrates), and none of my business (what kind of relationship the...

Such as ...? And lambaste the design as they see fit. So if one does work for a large company, are they to assume that their work should be held to a higher standard than if they do work for a small company? It may often work that way, but is it moral to penalize a client for not being a...

Arguably, this is symbiotic marketing. It may be also be beneficial to patients. How many times might the second doctor disagree with the first doctor's diagnosis before he gets dropped from the list? I am not aware that it is common for engineers to share their files with each other. If...

Okay: "Engineers shall not attempt to injure, maliciously or falsely, directly or indirectly, the professional reputation, ..." That sounds like a prohibition against : "I have a grudge against Joe P.E. So I'm going to hunt for his work and try to shoot holes in it wherever I can." That is...

What is the thinking behind this part of the NSPE's Code of Ethics? http://www.nspe.org/Ethics/CodeofEthics/index.html a. Engineers in private practice shall not review the work of another engineer for the same client, except with the knowledge of such engineer, or unless the connection of...