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  1. uscme1997

    Pressure Protection Bladder Expansion Tank

    Thanks to all for your assistance! Regards.
  2. uscme1997

    Pressure Protection Bladder Expansion Tank

    CBX254-125 Note that there is a 1/2" nozzle in the tank that is plugged. This cannot be used for a PSV. Removal of the plug invalidates the manufacturer warranty and can cause bladder damage.
  3. uscme1997

    thread794-482742

    Can anyone here provide additional insight on this thread? I got some feedback from another forum, but not sufficient to answer my question. TIA thread794-482742
  4. uscme1997

    Pressure Protection Bladder Expansion Tank

    Is there aa acceptable method to get ppl from other forums to review this thread? TO get some additional thoughts?
  5. uscme1997

    Pressure Protection Bladder Expansion Tank

    Piping is ASME B31.3 (2004ish) and vessels ASME Section VIII D1 (2010ish).
  6. uscme1997

    Pressure Protection Bladder Expansion Tank

    TBP - But if the expansion tank is an ASME Section VIII, D1 vessel - then pressure protection must be provided for the vessel or an analysis performed in accordance with UG-140, overpressure protection of a pressure vessel by system design, must be performed. In this case, overpressure by fire...
  7. uscme1997

    Pressure Protection Bladder Expansion Tank

    So, in my world (Department of Energy - Nuclear Waste Management), if its an ASME vessel and fire case is plausible - then yes a PSV for fire case is required. Basically, we say that a fire is just as possible to happen during a maintenance event (i.e. vessel LOTO) as during a normal operations...
  8. uscme1997

    Pressure Protection Bladder Expansion Tank

    Thanks - did not know about the double posting policy. I will rectify that situation shortly. When we evaluate fire case, we assume that the vessel is blocked in, thus there would be no pathway for liquid to exit the vessel. Mounting the PSV on liquid side would temporarily help the...
  9. uscme1997

    Pressure Protection Bladder Expansion Tank

    I have a chilled water system with an ASME Section VIII, D1 expansion tank. The expansion tank has an internal bladder, which is the connection to chilled water system (i.e. water inside of bladder). The tank itself is charged with air. Being that this is an ASME vessel, I need to provide...
  10. uscme1997

    API 650 Maximum Pressure Emergency Venting

    The design pressure is 0 psig. But never-the-less, section 3.10.8 addresses emergency venting requirements regardless of the nameplate design pressure. It requires you to calculate, in accordance with F.4.1, the permitted pressure accumulation in the tank that serves as driving force for...
  11. uscme1997

    API 650 Maximum Pressure Emergency Venting

    So I am evaluating an existing API 650 tank for emergency venting (fire case). The tank is anchored, so per 3.10.8.3.b the limit on internal pressure for emergency venting is determined via F.4.1. The tank has been constructed with an ASME F&D head, with no compression ring. The equation for...
  12. uscme1997

    B31.3 Unlisted Component

    Let me add another condition....I am working to an earlier edition of B31.3. Sorry that tidbit was not originally included.
  13. uscme1997

    B31.3 Unlisted Component

    I know that B31.3 excludes instruments. But I have a question regarding thermowells - unlisted component or not? What say you? Thanks, Tony
  14. uscme1997

    External Vertical Force Included in Base Shear?

    Thanks for the help. I have another related question. If I enter nozzle loads into the WRC 107 portion of COMPRESS, will these nozzle loads be treated as external forces and be considered in calculation of the base shear and overturning moment in seismic?
  15. uscme1997

    External Vertical Force Included in Base Shear?

    I am applying an external vertical force to the vessel. Is this external force included in determining the weight of the vessel to be used in calculation of the seismic force Fp?
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