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How thick would a piece of ceramic tile have to be to reduce the heat to safe levels if one side of it were heated by a flame and you were trying to protect the other side? I know this isn't a UL forum, but it would be interesting to know from practicality if not (obviously) from measurement...

"...If it were up to me, I'd rip out the wood in question and put in a nice ceramic or granite inlay". That's a good idea. I knew you had it in you. The wood frame in question is part of a "grill-fit" kit. This kit is the variable part of the product, allowing accommodating different grill...

I wont ever see the customers. That's moot anyway. We plan for morons. I don't think covering it up is that easy - that's why I'm in this forum. I have to worry that whatever's covering the wood may eventually heat up too much. If not for legal reasons, my conscience. There must be an innovation...

re added stone If you look carefully you'll see the stone does not impede the flame. The wood frame is still in between the burner and the stone. Additionally, the stone happens to be an accessory option at this point. We do not supply it. The consumer will decide if he wants it after he sets...

review the product in the pdf first... On the grill model that has the external burner, what if someone places a large pan on that burner? The flame follows the pan's contour and spreads out much further from the gas outlets than normal, and directly over the wooden frame abutting it. Q: What...

Subject re-visited: The cost of UL is $8,000 for a fan or heating element. SNORGY's slipstream / spa water idea is good but pretty complicated, but it does escape the UL requirement, no? Any other ideas to get around UL?

An expensive brand that describes a ceramic approach is seen at: http://www.chiretail.com/technology Maybe this is what I can find for the element.

SNORGY Interesting. The cheap ones run about $25. So I figure I can buy them with small inventory at about 45% less, which makes the price point. I certainly won't be complaining about lack of heat! Those irons get damn hot! And better than a cheap fan-driven heater. No mechanical break-downs...

zekeman I think you're right. But making my own has advantages. Buying components from commodity suppliers like stainless tubes, tracer cable, thermostat etc is very easy. I may in fact source ready-made product but I don't think there's ready-made product at the right price and special...

Thanx DVD I'll call. SNORGY - that's clever. Would have an incredible marketing angle.. green, etc. A bit tougher to implement? Don't spas have a notorious history of failure? Pumps always going bad, heaters, etc. Maybe not important. If you cant bathe why do you need towels?? Unless you use...

re: producing outdoor towel warmer re: consumer backyard spa, jacuzzi use Am commercializing a towel warmer enclosed in a cedar box, about 20" square. Used for heating DRY towels, only. Challenge: heating element Have ruled out a heater/fan. Want several stainless tubes to carry a resistance...