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  1. djr3203

    Generator Remote Start Signal Wiring - Class 1 Remote Control Circuit?

    I am not sure the voltage and current of the remote start circuit as this is for a temporary generator connection at a hospital that is only brought on site temporarily from time to time. The existing installation has the 2#14 generator start with the 3phase,4Wire, 480V feeder from a tap box...
  2. djr3203

    Generator Remote Start Signal Wiring - Class 1 Remote Control Circuit?

    Are the conductors for a 2-wire start signal for a generator considered a Class 1 remote control circuit per NEC?
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    Insulation Breakdown of Polaris Splice

    I just ran by an issue where I have a 3phase, 100A disconnect feeding (2) 3phase, 50A disconnects that serve electric space heaters. The load side of the disconnect has (3) #2AWG feeding into a wire gutter where Polaris splices were used to splice down to (2) 50A feeders at #8AWG each going to...
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    Relationship of Feeder Resistance, Voltage Drop, and Power Dissipated in a Circuit

    All, Thanks for taking the time to help clear this up for me. Sometimes I let myself get carried away and over complicate matters... DJR
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    Relationship of Feeder Resistance, Voltage Drop, and Power Dissipated in a Circuit

    All, thanks for clearing it up and hanging through my brain fart. So when it comes to motor loads, increasing the line resistance (and subsequently the voltage drop at the motor) will result in increased energy losses (i.e. bigger bill) which is why the Energy Code incorporated the voltage drop...
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    Relationship of Feeder Resistance, Voltage Drop, and Power Dissipated in a Circuit

    Ouch Waross... Thanks for not touching on any of the questions in the comment and for providing a short comment that is obviously insulting and not helpful. My original response was that an increase in voltage drop is due to an increase in losses in the line, which would increase the power being...
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    Relationship of Feeder Resistance, Voltage Drop, and Power Dissipated in a Circuit

    The new California Energy Code has adopted the fine print notes of the NEC for voltage drop. I am well aware of the undesirable affects of excessive voltage drop on circuits, especially motor loads (decrease in starting torque and overheating of the winding) but me and a coworker were wondering...
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    NEC CB Size for Motor Loads

    NEC allows for a maximum 250% the FLA of a motor for an inverse-time CB. Is there somewhere in the NEC that allows you to use a 20A CB as the minimum CB size for protecting motors? As an example, I have a 1-1/2HP 460V, 3PH motor with an FLC of 3A. 3A x 2.5 = 7.5A, so does the circuit...
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    Symmetrical vs. Asymmetrical Faults - Three Phase Bolted vs Line to Ground

    Magoo2, Awesome thanks. Very helpful to see a trace. DJR
  10. djr3203

    Symmetrical vs. Asymmetrical Faults - Three Phase Bolted vs Line to Ground

    Davidbeach, Ah ok I see, I was mixing things up in my head. Magoo2, I would really like to see those traces but I don't see them in your post? Also, can you tell me if my understanding below is correct: If the network is an ideal, pure resistive network, the fault current would be...
  11. djr3203

    Symmetrical vs. Asymmetrical Faults - Three Phase Bolted vs Line to Ground

    All, I have been a little unsure about this, so I was hoping the community could help clear it up for me. For a 3 phase, Wye distribution, I have read that a three phase bolted fault is a balanced fault and a single line to ground fault is an unbalanced fault. If a three phase bolted fault...
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    Adding a Knock Out to an Existing Panel - Does it Void UL Listing?

    DPC, you're right and I didn't mean to imply the panel was rated for arc flash (obviously that is really incorrect). Obviously arc flash incident energies are for determining PPE requirements for live work. I meant to say the explosion resulting from the fault. I thought, that depending on...
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    Adding a Knock Out to an Existing Panel - Does it Void UL Listing?

    Gotcha. So there really isn't any restrictions to how many knock outs you can add to a panel? I feel like at some point wouldn't it undermine the panelboards ability to withstand the forces imposed on it during an arc flash incident? Although I just called some other contractors I know and...
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    Adding a Knock Out to an Existing Panel - Does it Void UL Listing?

    Hey All, Did a search and couldn't find a previous post... Does anyone know if it is acceptable to add a knock out to the side of an existing panel in which there is no more room on the top of the panel for a new conduit? Would doing this void the UL listing of the panel? Thanks for any...
  15. djr3203

    Arc Flash Reduction Maintenance Switch

    All, I think you all have very good points, and I feel the topic could be argued to eternity... I guess no matter what, it falls on the worker to read labels prior to working and to follow procedures (and hopefully the employer has put in place good maintenance procedures). Hamburger, Light...
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    Low Voltage Protective Device Arc Flash Analysis - Protective Device Bolted&Arcing Fault Current

    Waross, Agreed changing the trip time does not lessen the arc intensity but lessens the clearing time of the arc which impacts the energy at the fault. I wrote the statement too fast. I agree the location of the arc has no affect on the magnitude of the arcing fault current, as this depends...
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    Low Voltage Protective Device Arc Flash Analysis - Protective Device Bolted&Arcing Fault Current

    I didn't realize the fault current through the upstream device that is tripping would be different, but now that I think about it, it makes sense. I had read the equations of IEEE 1582 on how to calculate the arc fault current, but I didn't realize it also had equations for determining the...
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    Arc Flash Reduction Maintenance Switch

    We have a project where we will be installing a new Eaton Magnum DS Low Voltage Switchgear with an arc flash reduction maintenance switch. 1. Does the maintenance switch set the main breakers to their lowest settings to reduce arc flash hazard while working on the gear? 2. If so, should the...
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    Low Voltage Protective Device Arc Flash Analysis - Protective Device Bolted&Arcing Fault Current

    I am using SKM to perform a power system analysis (short circuit,coordination, and arc flash). When performing he arc flash calculations through the software per IEEE 1584, the table summary gives me the bus bolted fault current, bus arcing fault current, protective device bolted fault current...
  20. djr3203

    Reason for Motor Circuit Protector with Upstream OCPD?

    Ah stupid me, I should have known that was what TM stood for. Makes perfect sense. Thank you for the clarifications and insight!

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