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  1. luffy2011

    Delta vs Wye primary

    I think it all boils down to your intended appication. If you use DELTA-delta, I see no concern as long as it is what you need, and have considered other factors such as need for grounding. However, if this is a utility serving common customer loads, then, a DELTA-wye is the typical connection...
  2. luffy2011

    Is there a limit?

    Nah.. In our case, it's already difficult to coordinate more than 4 reclosers. And that's where sectionalizers come in. http://www.powerqualityworld.com
  3. luffy2011

    Delta vs Wye primary

    Yeah, any device that closes the 3 phases simultaneously. http://www.powerqualityworld.com
  4. luffy2011

    Is there a limit?

    That's interesting. Anyway, if ever you encounter a coordination problem, I think you can consider using sectionalizers depending on the intended application.
  5. luffy2011

    Is there a limit?

    Relatively longer to satisfy necessary CTI, but should not exceed the time as per damage curve of protected device. Consequently, if there are too many, it will be impractical to achieve coordination. But as to the limit, I haven't read any standard and you can install as many as you want but...
  6. luffy2011

    Delta vs Wye primary

    Yes, it should be fine to energize an unloaded transformer with delta primary as long as you use 3-phase, 3-pole circuit breakers. http://www.powerqualityworld.com
  7. luffy2011

    High Impedance Bus Protection Relay Tripping

    stevenal, Well noted... Thanks much for giving time to share your thoughts... Thanks...
  8. luffy2011

    High Impedance Bus Protection Relay Tripping

    Guys, Aside from possible wiring mistakes, we're also looking at CT remanence as the possible cause - since it affects CT performance during high current such as load switching and reduces CT accuracy (e.g. ratio) even at steady-state. Kindly share your experiences... Thanks...
  9. luffy2011

    High Impedance Bus Protection Relay Tripping

    stevenal, I apologize for the confusion... The circuits summed involve two feeder and the main line. Actually, there are four feeders in total but at that time we only loaded two feeders. Main Line - 200 A Problem Feeder - 70 A Adjacent Feeder - 130 A Other 2 Feeders - No Load (Breakers Open)...
  10. luffy2011

    High Impedance Bus Protection Relay Tripping

    stevenal, I apologize for the confusion... The circuits summed involve two feeder and the main line. Actually, there are four feeders in total but at that time we only loaded two feeders. Main Line - 200 A Problem Feeder - 70 A Adjacent Feeder - 130 A Other 2 Feeders - No Load (Breakers Open)...
  11. luffy2011

    High Impedance Bus Protection Relay Tripping

    Cranky, The settings were calculated based on SEL guidelines. The 68 V trip setting have a time delay of 1.25 cyc to compensate arrester operation and/or CT unbalance during high current (inrush or external fault). Since you can set two 87 stages, the SEL guideline also recommends to set the...
  12. luffy2011

    High Impedance Bus Protection Relay Tripping

    stevenal, There were only two feeders up, the one with the problem (70 A) and the adjacent line (130 A)... Anyway, I'd appreciate to see your calculations for the differential current in case of a phase swap... Thanks... http://www.powerqualityworld.com
  13. luffy2011

    High Impedance Bus Protection Relay Tripping

    stevenal, The trip occurred when we first load that feeder... When we tried loading the adjacent feeder, it was successful. So what we did was lengthen the delay to around 5 seconds, and load back the feeder that caused the trip. There was no trip but the relay recorded that the high impedance...
  14. luffy2011

    High Impedance Bus Protection Relay Tripping

    DTR, Yes, PCIT and secondary loop tests were performed to check the phasing and metering accuracy of the relay... When you say bonding jumpers, are you referring to the cable shield wires? Thanks...
  15. luffy2011

    High Impedance Bus Protection Relay Tripping

    stevenal and dpc, As what I've replied to Eletest, it would seem at first that it is simply a polarity problem (A & C interchanged). However, I'd like to add that aside from the high impedance element voltages, the steady-state differential currents are relatively low: IA = 5-7, IB = 1, IC =...
  16. luffy2011

    High Impedance Bus Protection Relay Tripping

    HH, Thanks, have already read it. That's why we've added a time delay of about 1-2 cyc. Other installations were stable but I think we still need to review it. Also, I forgot to mention that high diff readings persist for about 30 cyc as per event records. Thanks.
  17. luffy2011

    High Impedance Bus Protection Relay Tripping

    Cranky, Yes, we're also looking at the CTs as the prime suspects but will also consider other possible reasons that forumers here may have encountered from similar experiences. Also, the 8 V is bothering us, since our other 587Z installations would only show 1 V the most.. Thanks!
  18. luffy2011

    High Impedance Bus Protection Relay Tripping

    Eletest, Thanks much for the reply. Yes, we've conducted PCIT prior to energization and everything was normal. Also, I forgot to mention that aside from the 8 V in 87A & 87C, the steady-state diff currents are about 5-7 A only, thus, lowering the polarity problem as the cause. Thanks..
  19. luffy2011

    High Impedance Bus Protection Relay Tripping

    DTR, All standard tests were performed for the CTs, wiring and relays - results are satisfactory. Basically, we have two major concerns here: 1. Tripping during load switching In this case, the CTs and arresters are the primary suspects as they have transient characteristics. However, a delay...
  20. luffy2011

    High Impedance Bus Protection Relay Tripping

    Hi Guys, I’d like to know if any of you have a similar experience and kindly give your analysis on this situation: High impedance relay for bus protection (SEL 587Z) trips during switching of load on one particular feeder only. Details: > In steady-state, the relay impedance element...
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