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2 or 4 quadrant?

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lukin1977

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Jan 19, 2009
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I need to choose a DC Drive to be installed on a horizontal wire spooler (picture attached for reference. not the actual machine).

The machine will be taking up wire feed from a wire drawing machine and a dancer will be installed between both to regulate spooler´s speed

The question is: DC Drive for spooler should be 2 o 4 quadrant?

Thanks!
 
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Looks like you need to brake that one in a controlled manner. And probably quite fast. Especially when there is a wire break at high speed.

If the machine ramps up and down in tens of seconds, you definitely need a four-quadrant drive so you can keep wire tension (acceleration compensation works both ways) constant.

Those two facts. Plus the fact that a four-quadrant drive isn't much more expensive (if at all) than the alternative braking resistor and also produces less heat makes me vote 4 4. No doubt!

I've done that and other spooling/winding machines for decades. Once in a while someone tries a two-quadrant drive. No ovations...

Gunnar Englund
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Half full - Half empty? I don't mind. It's what in it that counts.
 
Machine does not ramp up and down very quickly. In fact, ramp up and down is done manually by the operator with a potentiometer for line speed

When wire breaks: the "movable" dancer´s pulley falls down and press a limit switch that desable the drives and applys neumatic disc brakes on both machines

 
Not very dynamic, then. Use whatever you feel like.

But if the operator wants to keep production up, I recommend 4-q. Otherwise he will have to turn that potentiometer quite slowly.

What brakes are there? Disk brakes?

Gunnar Englund
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Half full - Half empty? I don't mind. It's what in it that counts.
 
Yes. Disk brakes.

My question about 2 or 4Q was done because I thought that the selection depend on the type of load and I was not sure what to choose
 
Ifyou are absolutely sure that you never need to brake electricaly, then you can go with 2-q. But if you see anythig like fast acceleratonor deceleration, in the order of ten-twenty seconds up or down, coming your way, I still say that you are a lot better off with 4-q. And, as I said, it doesnt cost that much and you avoid heat from brakes or braking resistors.

Gunnar Englund
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Half full - Half empty? I don't mind. It's what in it that counts.
 
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