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2010 - Text in a note (vertical allignment)

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evolDiesel

evolDiesel

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Feb 29, 2008
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The following issue has plagued me for several years now.

Inside a title block, where you have the part's description, how do you SIMULTANEOUSLY achieve the following goals:

1. Make the note horizontally center alligned
2. Make the note vertically center alligned
3. Keep all note text inside the confines of your description area

I have never been able to do this. Then I found this and got excited:


However, when the dust settled I was no further along.

I know most of you do drawings. I gotta think that someone in this forum is living the good life and has this figured out. Please share it with me.

Thanks

Jack Lapham
Engineering Systems Administrator (E20)
Leupold & Stevens, Inc.
Dell M6400 Covet
Intel Core 2 Duo T9800, 2.93GHz, 1066MHZ 6M L2 Cache
8.0GB, DDR3-1066 SDRAM, 2 DIMM
1GB nVIDIA Quadro FX 3700M (8.17.12.5896)
160GB Hard Drive 9.5MM 7200RPM FFS
W7x64 | sw-01: 55.92
SolidWorks 2010 x64 sp4.0
Enterprise PDM 2010 sp
 
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You can set the center vert with the function that you found in help. That function doesn't not center horizontally (dispite the icon's suggestion otherwise).

To get what you want, first start your note, then click and hold one of the four grips at a corner of the note entity. Drag it to the desired size (to fill your description field, for example), and then release. Exit the note and then re-edit it (double click on the note).

More functions will now be available in the PropertyManager in the Text Format section. Click on the center paragraph alignment button, and the vertical alignment button. All of this should allow you to get what you are after.

Matt Lorono
Lorono's SolidWorks Resources & SolidWorks Legion

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Chris,

At the risk of sounding cocky, I'm miles past that. I have templates, sheet formats, custom properties, PDMWorks Enterprise and a defined title block through which users edit fields that ripple back through file properties and data cards. I build these from scratch depending on the company/user's requirements.

But this one little issue of text box formatting forces my users to enter the sheet format and manually position the description text box for it to be centered in the description border I've created in our title block.

I've tried everything with anchoring, and allignment/fit options but just can't seem to get a text box to behave correctly. Best I can do is horizontally center and within border constraints but not vertically center.

I've scoured the internet several times over the years and contacted my VAR a handful of times. This should have been fixed in 2010, but it's not looking that way to me.

If you [or any member] have a working example, let me know.

Thanks,

- Jack

Jack Lapham
Engineering Systems Administrator (E20)
Leupold & Stevens, Inc.
Dell M6400 Covet
Intel Core 2 Duo T9800, 2.93GHz, 1066MHZ 6M L2 Cache
8.0GB, DDR3-1066 SDRAM, 2 DIMM
512Mb nVIDIA Quadro FX 3700M (8.17.12.5896)
160GB Hard Drive 9.5MM 7200RPM FFS
W7x64 | sw-01: 55.92
SolidWorks 2010 x64 sp4.0
Enterprise PDM 2010
 
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Our quick solution was to split the title block into 3 lines, and in our templates have 3 different lines of text that are available should the descriptions require it.

"Art without engineering is dreaming; Engineering without art is calculating."

Have you read faq731-376 to make the best use of these Forums?
 
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Hi, evolDiesel:

I do not have a good answer for you because I do not have the same issues you have been having.

See my comment below:

1. Use "Center" option to center your text horizontally. I use SW08, and it works fine.

2. I do not have a need to align texts vertically on title blocks.

3. Can't you increase text size or reduce length of data entry?

Best regards,

Alex
 
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I'm working on a video to upload to youtube that shows the issue. My VAR just got back to me. It's a known bug with SolidWorks (SPR 542561).

Jack Lapham
Engineering Systems Administrator (E20)
Leupold & Stevens, Inc.
Dell M6400 Covet
Intel Core 2 Duo T9800, 2.93GHz, 1066MHZ 6M L2 Cache
8.0GB, DDR3-1066 SDRAM, 2 DIMM
512Mb nVIDIA Quadro FX 3700M (8.17.12.5896)
160GB Hard Drive 9.5MM 7200RPM FFS
W7x64 | sw-01: 55.92
SolidWorks 2010 x64 sp4.0
Enterprise PDM 2010
 
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"Why don't you change what you need to do to accomodate the quirks in our software?"

(Sorry, couldn't resist)
 
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You mean like force my engineers to go underneath, into the sheet format to move a text box around so it's squared up? Yeah, we already do that ;)

Jack Lapham
Engineering Systems Administrator (E20)
Leupold & Stevens, Inc.
Dell M6400 Covet
Intel Core 2 Duo T9800, 2.93GHz, 1066MHZ 6M L2 Cache
8.0GB, DDR3-1066 SDRAM, 2 DIMM
512Mb nVIDIA Quadro FX 3700M (8.17.12.5896)
160GB Hard Drive 9.5MM 7200RPM FFS
W7x64 | sw-01: 55.92
SolidWorks 2010 x64 sp4.0
Enterprise PDM 2010
 
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Jack,

If I understand you correctly, you are looking for what would be the "fit" justification in ACAD. In SolidWorks, "fit" seems to add a word wrap/second line instead of compressing the font to fit within the text box. Is this what you are experiencing and trying to solve?

Joe
SW Office 2008 SP5.0
P4 3.0Ghz 3GB
ATI FireGL X1
 
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I now notice that selecting "fit" does compress or expand the text. Getting it to work seems kind of quirky. I believe you need to select "fit" first, then resize the text-box to either expand or compress.

Joe
SW Office 2008 SP5.0
P4 3.0Ghz 3GB
ATI FireGL X1
 
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Hey guys,

I posted a video on youtube. It's still uploading.

I feel like it's a complete, if not exhaustive example of how you CAN'T vertically center a note. Once again, I've learned that this is a known bug with SPR 542561.

fcsuper - I went back and looked at your original reply and I would agree that's generally how to go about it, except if you went through those steps you'd find that it doesn't work as my video (and years of trying) proves this.

Thanks,
Jack

Jack Lapham
Engineering Systems Administrator (E20)
Leupold & Stevens, Inc.
Dell M6400 Covet
Intel Core 2 Duo T9800, 2.93GHz, 1066MHZ 6M L2 Cache
8.0GB, DDR3-1066 SDRAM, 2 DIMM
512Mb nVIDIA Quadro FX 3700M (8.17.12.5896)
160GB Hard Drive 9.5MM 7200RPM FFS
W7x64 | sw-01: 55.92
SolidWorks 2010 x64 sp4.0
Enterprise PDM 2010
 
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I have done this using a 1 cell table before. The only problem is that if your title gets too long the text will cover the label for the box.

As in there are the word "Description" is centered along the top of the box. If the description gets to 3 lines part of the first line over laps the "Description" If I could get the lines not to show up in an table that would not be a problem.
 
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fcsuper (Mechanical)
28 Oct 10 11:36
I feel like my posted comment wasn't read. See my above comment. (seriously)
Click to expand...
Yes, it was. I think the problem is not to center text within the box but to center the text box relative to title block lines. can you center a text box relative to a line, point, or another text box?

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SnowCrash,

The issue is not with the text box position. The issue is that text inside the text box can't be centered vertically.

Please, I implore all of you to try this before you respond. It a real, "I get it now" moment.

But like I said, it's a known bug with an SPR and at this point I'm looking for responses like GRF (attempts at work around until SWX fixes the bug). I'll let it go a couple more days and give GRF a star if no one else has a better work around :)

Thanks,
- J

Jack Lapham
Engineering Systems Administrator
Leupold & Stevens, Inc.
Dell M6400 Covet
Intel Core 2 Duo T9800, 2.93GHz, 1066MHZ 6M L2 Cache
8.0GB, DDR3-1066 SDRAM, 2 DIMM
512Mb nVIDIA Quadro FX 3700M (8.17.12.5896)
160GB Hard Drive 9.5MM 7200RPM FFS
W7x64 | sw-01: 55.92
SolidWorks 2010 x64 sp4.0
Enterprise PDM 2010
 
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Hi, evolDiesel:

I did not quite get what you are trying to do. Could you post an image (a part of your drawing title block) to show your issue(s)?

Best regards,

Alex
 
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rgrayclamps,

Just go 4 posts above. I posted a fancy YouTube video.

Jack

Jack Lapham
Engineering Systems Administrator
Leupold & Stevens, Inc.
Dell M6400 Covet
Intel Core 2 Duo T9800, 2.93GHz, 1066MHZ 6M L2 Cache
8.0GB, DDR3-1066 SDRAM, 2 DIMM
512Mb nVIDIA Quadro FX 3700M (8.17.12.5896)
160GB Hard Drive 9.5MM 7200RPM FFS
W7x64 | sw-01: 55.92
SolidWorks 2010 x64 sp4.0
Enterprise PDM 2010
 
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Matt,
Did you say something? [lol]

I admit, I skipped past your post. I apologize, was in a hurry.

evolDiesel,
Thanks for posting the video. I understand better your issue.
I don't have SW with me tonight, but I thought there was a document setting for the text/font box/border size?

Chris
SolidWorks 10 SP4.0
ctopher's home
SolidWorks Legion
 
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