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Advice re: Obtaining AWS Certified Welding Engineer... 7

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Zylinderkopf

Mechanical
Dec 30, 2005
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Greetings to my engineering colleagues:

Please forgive me in advance, as I was not entirely certain as to whether my enquiry should either be posted in this forum (as was thread 725-111547) or the “Corporate Survival – How to Improve Myself…” forum (as was thread 725-138453); both of these “threads” have some relevance to my question but did not address my specific concerns. Here goes…

I’ll turn 49 years of age this year, and have a BSME from an ABET-accredited university. I came to engineering work at the ripe age of 39, after bombing-out of AAA then AA baseball; a stint as an oil refinery operator gave me the “piping and fixed equipment” bug, I guess, so I went back to school at night…

I did not take the FE exam (please, not too many pieces of rotten fruit thrown my way). Having completed a couple of years with an offshore construction company, I went to work in the PRC, Japan and finally ROK. While in Korea I went through some bad politics with the local management of the shipyard that I worked in and I returned back to the USA in the beginning of 2006 to work for a mining company – compared with my previous oil and gas work, the job is not quite as challenging, but it is very steady and pays o.k. I have been a 05/50 “hands-on” field engineering / desk-work design “type” during my engineering career and I have decided to focus on Welding Engineering as a “specialty” because I have very much enjoyed piping and structural fabrication projects. If it should matter, I did receive a certification in SMAW and FCAW (structure and pipe) from a local community college just prior to going overseas.

I am in dire need of your advice in this area – my sincere hope is that obtaining the subject Certification would bring me to the threshold of having the tools necessary to focus the remainder of my career in way of Welding Engineering, and, ideally, to obtain a position as a Welding Engineer (my present company has no such position and I do not anticipate that they will create one at any time in the future). My naïve prejudice has been developed by speaking in the past with some BSME’s that have called themselves “Welding Engineers” but have neither have had any certification nor had any graduate diploma in this area; and, frankly speaking, I did not find them (in my instances, at least) to be completely reliable – so, I just resorted early-on to ferreting-out the information that I needed from D1.1 on my own…

I think that Welding Engineering graduate schools (via distance education, e.g. Ohio SU) are nice, but not so appealing to me such that I wish to attempt, in earnest, to seek successful enrollment in and complete this type of program; time and money are a big part of the way that I feel here – my company will not reimburse me for the AWS certification but, my Japanese wife has generously agreed not to cut me apart with her katana if I pay for it myself (it’s not that expensive, really…).

I have also read in the threads that I have referenced at the beginning of this diatribe, that there is some International Welding Engineering certification from somewhere? In my case, should this be a preference to the analogous(?) certification that the AWS offers?

Thank you all, very much, for your kind consideration of my enquiry – please know that any advice that you give me will not go to waste.

Best Regards,
Pete
 
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I haven't detected a huge market for Welding Engineers, certified or not. I think a friend of mine is, or was, AWS certified. It made him some beer money, but he's doing something else now.



Mike Halloran
Pembroke Pines, FL, USA
 
Greetings, Mr. Mike Halloran:

Thank you for taking your time to read and respond to my enquiry.

I understand what you have written about the Welding Engineer job market, and also understand what you style as "beer money"; this is the advice that I am searching for and in need of receiving.

Thanks again for your time.

Best Regards,
Pete
 
I believe that Mike is correct that there isn't a huge market for Welding Engineers. There are jobs for weld engineers though, and if that is what you truly want to do, then go for it. If you are good at it, you will find work. My former employer had two weld engineers, and we probably could have used two more.

A brief story: When I was an undergrad, a classmate was interested in studying nuclear engineering and eventually working on submarines. When he told our professor he was hesitant to do this because of the limited job market, our professor retorted with something along the lines of "Don't let the number of job openings steer your future. If everybody made their decision strictly on this basis, we would never have another president of the United States".

I thought this is a relevant quote for you.

Reidh

 
Greetings, "Reidh":

Thank you for taking your time to read and respond to my enquiry.

Thank you also for sharing some of your more memorable undergraduate experience with me...your quote is well-taken and I am grateful for your sharing this salient advice with me.

Thanks again for your time.

Best Regards,
Pete
 
Zylinderkopf

I work in oil & gas, mainly on upstream projects and there is a huge demand for AWS certificate holders. You may need to be a bit broad in your expectations, good qualified inspection personnel are in high demand.

There are many, but take a look at the following websites and check out the potential positions out there for qualifications as you have laid out:


Project Engineers (which is a very broad term with regards to actual roles & responsbilities) with good a welding background is a possibility.

Greg Lamberson
Consultant - Upstream Energy
Website:
 
Obviously, as you can see from the posts above each person has their own perspective on the job market. Adding in my one cent, not two, I happen to agree completely with GregLamberson.

In fact, the demand for welders is a major concern to the trade unions (boilermakers and pipe fitters) in the US. Major environmental projects (SCR's and FGD;s) in the Power Generation sector will place high demand for welders and welding engineers with AWS certification over the next 10 years.
 
Greetings, Mr. Greg Lamberson and "metengr":

Mr. Lamberson:
Sir, thank you for your welcomed advice and for the web site links; I sincerely appreciate your time and kind consderation and I will take your advice to-heart.

"metengr":
As you have styled, your "one cent" advice is priceless to me in way of my ability to make a sound decision for me and my family. Thank you, very much, for your time that you have taken to read and respond to my enquiry.

Best Regards to both of you,
Pete
 
Not many jobs for welding engineers, but not that many degreed (or certified) welding engineers competing for those jobs, either. I'm contemplating the OSU master's program myself.

Hg

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Frankly in oil & gas industry, again, upstream projects, if you have AWS certifications of any sort, you can get a decent day rate as a welding or NDT inspector for pipelines, facilities, fabrication, etc. Not glamorous, but it pays good day rates and the terms are generally pretty decent.

I'm looking right now for an NDT inspector on a project in W. Africa (THIS IS NOT A SOLICITATION FOR CV's). I know other projects are looking as well. There is no shortage of work.

Greg Lamberson
Consultant - Upstream Energy
Website:
 
Greetings, Mr. Greg Lamberson and "HgTX":

Mr. Lamberson:
Sir, thank you again for your continued kind consideration and welcomed comments in way of my enquiry.

"HgTX":
Thank you for taking your time to read and respond to my enquiry and also for your welcomed comments.

Best Regards,
Pete
 
The job market for welding engineers is good if not great but it depends on what area of the country you are talking about.

I have a BS in Welding Engineering from Montana School of Mines and have never had a problem finding a Welding Engineering job. (I still get calls from headhunters from resumes I sent out a decade ago.) The key is finding a job where you want to live. I like the Pacific Northwest and there are fewer jobs here than in the gulf coast/Houston area or the Midwest so I went back to Washington State University and picked up another degree in civil engineering as there are lots of jobs everywhere in civil engineering. But it was not due to lack of job offers in welding engineering, it was lack of job offers where I wanted to live.

So my advice would be to go for it if you are willing to go to where the work is.

And on the topic of becoming a welding engineer it might be worthwhile to pursue the "certified welding engineer" program from AWS as it might lend credibility to your effort to crossover from BSME. I never bothered with the AWS certs due to having a PE and the Welding engineering Degree but it might be useful to someone making a transition from a puely mechanical background. Anyhow good luck and I hope your transition into the welding world goes well for you.

GP
 
Greetings, "GP":

Thank you for taking your time to read and respond to my enquiry and also for your welcomed comments.

Best Regards,
Pete
 
Hey ZY, the best Mechanical Engineer turned welder I know: Alexander calder with his "mobiles" and "stabiles"

Do what you love and find a way to get paid for it someone said.
 
Greetings, "atlas06":

Thank you for your unique perspective in way of my post.

Best Regards,
Pete
 
on a funny not for REidh : probably there out there plenty of unemployed "presidents"
 
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