API-1104 Welder Qualification

[blueyonder]

Hı,

Can anyone answer the followıng;
If a welder ıs qualıfıed to API-1104 on pıpe ın the 5G posıtıon would he also be qualıfıed to weld ın the 2G and 6G posıtıons.
Please ınform what posıtıons he would be qualıfıed for.

 

[denlow60]

f) A change in position from that for which the welder has already qualified (e.g. a change from rolled to fixed or a
change from vertical to horizontal or vice versa). A welder who qualifies in the fixed position shall also be qualified
to perform rolled welds within the essential variables qualified. A welder who qualifies on a butt weld shall also be
qualified to make lap fillet welds within the essential variables qualified. A welder who successfully passes a butt
weld qualification test in the fixed position with the axis inclined 45° from horizontal shall be qualified to do butt
welds and lap fillet welds in all positions.

 

[fegenbush]

No. The 5G position covers only the flat, vertical, and overhead positions. The horizontal position is not tested in the 5G test as it is in the 6G test.

 

[blueyonder]

OK thanks for your clarıfıcatıon wıth regards to not beıng covered for the 2G posıtıon.
One further questıon; If a welder ıs qualıfıed on a fıxed pıpe ın the 5G posıtıon would he also be qualıfıed to weld ın the 6G posıtıon.

 

[SectionIX]

No, for reasons cited above: A change in position from that for which the welder has already qualified (e.g. a change from rolled to fixed or a change from vertical to horizontal or vice versa).

For this reason, amongst others, this is why welders should be multi-qualified. Yes, I know that most times that welders may be making welds in one position, e.g., horizontal for cross country pipelines. However, multi-qualifcation removes most of the problem that occur when welders make welds outside the single qualification restriction.

 

[blueyonder]

OK, Thanks for clarıfıcatıon.

 

[gtaw]

Let's not confuse API1104 with ASME or AWS D1.X welding codes/standards. API1104 does not have the positions identified in the same manner as AWS or ASME. Apples and oranges and pumpkins. They are not the same.

Best regards - Al