CARunderscore
Structural
- Nov 12, 2015
- 28
Good morning,
I have a what is essentially a small hut design that I am trying to apply ASCE wind loads to. Architecturally, the thing is just four walls with a flat roof and an overhang all around. The windows and doors are proportionally large enough that the roof is primarily supported by short beam-columns rather than shear walls. Basically every structural element is also part of the building envelope. The gross outside surface area of the entire structure might not even add up to 700 square feet (it's very close). I am at home and don't have my copy of ASCE 7 in front of me, but I'm not even sure it meets the standard definition of a building, now that I think about it.
Based on the size and relatively small amount of redundancy within the structure, I'm wondering if there is anything that can even be meaningfully classified as the MWFRS. Every component receives wind load directly or from a window, door, or the roofing materials, after which the load has a short, straightforward path to the foundation.
My boss says that individual components should be checked for Components & Cladding pressures, but that the overall structure should be checked for MWFRS pressures. Intuitively, that doesn't make sense to me in this case. If I have a single wall to be checked for a component pressure, and that wall represents the entire upwind face of the building, isn't it non-conservative to not follow that whole load into the foundation? Before being told otherwise, I was inclined to just conservatively apply C&C pressures on all surfaces simultaneously such that the MWFRS pressures were included in and exceeded by the C&C pressures, and then see if the resulting forces were onerously high or not.
I used the Simplified Envelope Procedures (once again, don't have the book in front of me... sorry if I'm calling it the wrong thing) to generate the MWRFS pressures, and the corresponding simplified procedure to generate C&C pressures, if that makes a difference.
Thoughts?
I have a what is essentially a small hut design that I am trying to apply ASCE wind loads to. Architecturally, the thing is just four walls with a flat roof and an overhang all around. The windows and doors are proportionally large enough that the roof is primarily supported by short beam-columns rather than shear walls. Basically every structural element is also part of the building envelope. The gross outside surface area of the entire structure might not even add up to 700 square feet (it's very close). I am at home and don't have my copy of ASCE 7 in front of me, but I'm not even sure it meets the standard definition of a building, now that I think about it.
Based on the size and relatively small amount of redundancy within the structure, I'm wondering if there is anything that can even be meaningfully classified as the MWFRS. Every component receives wind load directly or from a window, door, or the roofing materials, after which the load has a short, straightforward path to the foundation.
My boss says that individual components should be checked for Components & Cladding pressures, but that the overall structure should be checked for MWFRS pressures. Intuitively, that doesn't make sense to me in this case. If I have a single wall to be checked for a component pressure, and that wall represents the entire upwind face of the building, isn't it non-conservative to not follow that whole load into the foundation? Before being told otherwise, I was inclined to just conservatively apply C&C pressures on all surfaces simultaneously such that the MWFRS pressures were included in and exceeded by the C&C pressures, and then see if the resulting forces were onerously high or not.
I used the Simplified Envelope Procedures (once again, don't have the book in front of me... sorry if I'm calling it the wrong thing) to generate the MWRFS pressures, and the corresponding simplified procedure to generate C&C pressures, if that makes a difference.
Thoughts?