ARS97
Structural
- Feb 24, 2010
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I'm designed a concrete "well cellar" for a gas company. This well cellar is a four-sided box with no top or bottom and is buried it's entire height (top flush with surface). The inside plan dimensions are 8' x 6', and the height is 8'. I'm trying to determine the induced stress on the face of one of the walls from a nearby vehicle load (HS20). I wanted to investigate this pressure using 2 methods:
1) A simplified method using additional backfill height (AASHTO)
2) A more exact method using a Boussinesq estimate
*DISCLAIMER - I'm a structural guy, and I'm not terribly familiar with AASHTO
Method #1
I have a copy of AASHTO LRFD Bridge Spec, 4th edition, 2007. From the best I can tell, I think an additional 4' of backfill would cover me (Table 3.11.6.4-1). This supposedly covers the "design truck" that has a 32k axle (HS20).
Method 2
I have 2 references for the induced stress from a point load: (1) AASHTO (3.11.6.2) and (2) Geotechnical Engineering, Principles & Practices, First Edition, Coduto. I've generated a basic spreadsheet that calculates the pressures/forces for each method. Here's my issue - the AASHTO method is giving me pressures/forces that are exactly TWICE the amount from the textbook. I've double-checked the equations, double-checked the inputs, and now I'm starting to believe that there is a either a misprint in one of the books, or there's a mysterious factor of 2 added in AASHTO for some reason. I was actually able to get in touch with Donald Coduto, but he didn't offer much insight as of yet. I'm trying desperately to track down some errata for both sources, but I'm not finding anything.
For you geotech gurus - attached is a PDF that shows both methods. Can anybody explain why the AASHTO method is generating results that are double the general Boussinesq method from the textbook?
1) A simplified method using additional backfill height (AASHTO)
2) A more exact method using a Boussinesq estimate
*DISCLAIMER - I'm a structural guy, and I'm not terribly familiar with AASHTO
Method #1
I have a copy of AASHTO LRFD Bridge Spec, 4th edition, 2007. From the best I can tell, I think an additional 4' of backfill would cover me (Table 3.11.6.4-1). This supposedly covers the "design truck" that has a 32k axle (HS20).
Method 2
I have 2 references for the induced stress from a point load: (1) AASHTO (3.11.6.2) and (2) Geotechnical Engineering, Principles & Practices, First Edition, Coduto. I've generated a basic spreadsheet that calculates the pressures/forces for each method. Here's my issue - the AASHTO method is giving me pressures/forces that are exactly TWICE the amount from the textbook. I've double-checked the equations, double-checked the inputs, and now I'm starting to believe that there is a either a misprint in one of the books, or there's a mysterious factor of 2 added in AASHTO for some reason. I was actually able to get in touch with Donald Coduto, but he didn't offer much insight as of yet. I'm trying desperately to track down some errata for both sources, but I'm not finding anything.
For you geotech gurus - attached is a PDF that shows both methods. Can anybody explain why the AASHTO method is generating results that are double the general Boussinesq method from the textbook?