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CA6NM vs. 9Cr-1Mo 4

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lidbasky

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Apr 19, 2011
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which is better for high temperature application and has good corrosion resistant "Cast CA6NM" or "Cast 9CR-1MO (V,Nb)" STEEL?
 
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What is the part,that you plan to manufacture nd why select CA6NM for a high temperature(what temperature) application? Traditionally,CA6NM was developed over 410 grade of castings for better impact and wear properties.

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Not enough information to make a valid comparison between these alloys. It is known cast Grade 91 will have much better high temperature strength properties in comparison to cast CA6NM because Grade 91 is a creep strength enhanced ferritic steel, and was developed primarily for use in the Power Generation industry.
Regarding corrosion applications in certain environments, the higher chromium containing alloy CA6NM (12%) will have better corrosion resistance in comparison Grade 91 (9%).
 
There are hundreds(+) of alloys in the range between 9Cr and modified 13Cr, why limit yourself to 2 ?
 
we use before CA6NM in casting exhaust parts that in contact with hot gasses but now purchaser want to replace it with Cast "9CR-1MO (V,Nb)" STEEL. I want to know that, this changing in material is because of price or performance?
 
The change is definitely towards performance as Metengr suggested,in an earlier post. However,please look at the castability of the alloy.

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it is hard to control Nitrogen and Al content of 9CR-1MO steel,
I think castability of CA6NM is better!
 
The Max. temprature of exhausting gasses is 550 C. but this parts are static.
 
The Max. temprature of exhausting gasses is 550 C. but these parts are static.
 
I would certainly not recommend 9Cr-1 Mo ,grade to be used in traditional casting techniques. There are other grade of heat resistant stainless steels as per ASTM A297,you can consider those for your application.

As suggested earlier,it is advised you engage the services of a knowledgeable and experienced metallurgist. It helps!

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I have seen CA6NM used in traditional gas and large steam turbine casings where metal temperatures do not exceed 1000 deg F. The elevated temperature strength of the CA6NM shows a significant decrease above 1000 deg F.

If you want an alternative alloy that can be used go with a 1%Cr-1%Mo- 0.5%V casting. This alloy has been used by turbine OEM's for many years, is reliable for elevated temperature service and castable. I would not use Grade 91 cast material.
 
about Hot corrosion, which is better at 550 C ?
 
If you mean high temperature oxidation in air, the CA6NM will be better because of the higher chromium content.
 
This is not cost driven, Cr is $1.5/lb and Mo is $18.
While the oxidation resistance of 9-1 is better than a straight 9%Cr I am not sure that it would match 13%Cr.
I am more concerned about castability and resulting properties.
CA6NM has proven toughness, which could be a problem with 9-1.

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that is true its C12A. It is creep resistance steel but the part that we made is in contact with hot gasses such as SO2 ... and working temperature is 550 C.
 
Thank to all
Can anybody introduce some books or papers about corrosion resistance of 9cr-1Mo-V steel?
 
For castability and weldability, CA-6NM is superior. Having about the minimum Cr required to qualify as stainless, it will have superior corrosion resistance (although if you leave it out in the rain it will develop rust). In my experience it is mainly a hydro turbine and pump grade.

Strange pair of alloys to compare.
 
lidbasky,
Please note that while 9Cr-1Mo-V casting is grade C12A under A-217, 9Cr-1Mo castings have grade designation C12.

Regarding high temperature strength at 550 C, agree with Metengr that C12A is superior to CA6NM but not C12.

Regarding oxidation resistance at 550 C, castability of the alloy and weldability of the alloy, I agree with metengr and brimstoner CA6NM will prove superior to C12A and C12.

 
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