milwaukeebob
Electrical
- Jun 21, 2004
- 42
Hello,
I have a follow-up question to a thread I started last week titled "Dry-Type Transformer Secondary Cable Sizing". A colleague and I have engaged in another small debate regarding the actual number of cables per phase that need to be installed on the secondary of the transformer.
In short, I have calculated a worst case transformer secondary current of 3551 amperes (occasional, short-time over-load conditions). The transformer has a nominal secondary voltage of 540V. While this would be an ideal application for non-segregated phase bus duct, we have to install DLO 777MCM cabling in cable tray for reasons I will not elaborate on. The calculated derated ampacity for this DLO cable in the enviroment we plan to install is 587 amperes. Using six (6) 777MCM cables/phase results in a total derated ampacity of 3522 amperes which is 29 amperes short of the calculated worst case transformer secondary current. My initial response was that we need to install seven (7) 777MCM cables/phase but one of my colleagues felt there were provisions in NEC to allow for the use of 6. Other then NEC 310.15(C) allowing you to calculate conductor ampacities using a formula (which is not practical in our situation), I have not found any other provisions.
Although I haven't done alot of these type calculations, I've never come this close (29 amperes). That's less then 1% of the total, worst-case current flow. Normally, I wouldn't question installing the 7th cable but we may have some challenges with all these terminations on one side (still being reviewed). I understand a 7th cable/phase means all the cables running at cooler temperatures over the life of the installation which means extending the life and performance of the cable. From a technical standpoint though, I also know there are some margins built in to the NEC 310 temperature, raceway derating factors. From that standpoint, it seems like "overkill" to added a seventh conductor.
My question is simply this...given what I've stated above, does NEC dictate a 7th 777MCM cables/phase or is there provision allowing for 6 cables/phase? I want a defensivable position and I don't want to get into a debate with the AHJ.
Thanks in advance for your guidance and help.
I have a follow-up question to a thread I started last week titled "Dry-Type Transformer Secondary Cable Sizing". A colleague and I have engaged in another small debate regarding the actual number of cables per phase that need to be installed on the secondary of the transformer.
In short, I have calculated a worst case transformer secondary current of 3551 amperes (occasional, short-time over-load conditions). The transformer has a nominal secondary voltage of 540V. While this would be an ideal application for non-segregated phase bus duct, we have to install DLO 777MCM cabling in cable tray for reasons I will not elaborate on. The calculated derated ampacity for this DLO cable in the enviroment we plan to install is 587 amperes. Using six (6) 777MCM cables/phase results in a total derated ampacity of 3522 amperes which is 29 amperes short of the calculated worst case transformer secondary current. My initial response was that we need to install seven (7) 777MCM cables/phase but one of my colleagues felt there were provisions in NEC to allow for the use of 6. Other then NEC 310.15(C) allowing you to calculate conductor ampacities using a formula (which is not practical in our situation), I have not found any other provisions.
Although I haven't done alot of these type calculations, I've never come this close (29 amperes). That's less then 1% of the total, worst-case current flow. Normally, I wouldn't question installing the 7th cable but we may have some challenges with all these terminations on one side (still being reviewed). I understand a 7th cable/phase means all the cables running at cooler temperatures over the life of the installation which means extending the life and performance of the cable. From a technical standpoint though, I also know there are some margins built in to the NEC 310 temperature, raceway derating factors. From that standpoint, it seems like "overkill" to added a seventh conductor.
My question is simply this...given what I've stated above, does NEC dictate a 7th 777MCM cables/phase or is there provision allowing for 6 cables/phase? I want a defensivable position and I don't want to get into a debate with the AHJ.
Thanks in advance for your guidance and help.