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Can We Use General Purpose Inverter for Crane?

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Herbrata68

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Jul 1, 2018
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My subcontractor use ABB ACS580 instead of ACS880.
They argue that can program to control crane with it.

Load capacity and motor power is no problem here,
but the purpose of inverter I concern here.

Latter:

Its already tested and it was fail.

First because of scalar control, next try with vector and I will soon report again.

Second, the failure is when try to stop the boom (load) when upward or downward, the motor not stop directly but need about a second to brake.

In that delay time the load is then (still) moved downward.
Worse when moving load downward.

Try to make 0 sec deceleration time, still not working, there is a delay about 1 sec before the mechanical braking close in.

They said they need a Dynamic Braking Control Unit and Brake Resistor to solve the problem.

I read the manual document, nor of them said ACS580 is a fully 4 quadrant drive inverter.

From ABB site:

" In certain processes where the load can also be generating, the energy needs to be absorbed. For short generating loads the traditional solution has been a braking resistor where the power generated has been transformed into heat losses. If however the load is generating all the time, a true 4-quadrant rectifier is needed."

And from:
ABMO 10002 | convertisseur de fréquence =<1 kV | appareillages électriques à basse tension | Industrie | Tous les produits | | Electro-Matériel SA layout3 - 4-quadrant operation possible : No

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End of story, maybe next month try with vector control and Dynamic Braking and Brake Resistor install.
 
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This is why you need the more expensive drive. It will have the ability to provide “torque proving” (although I don’t know what ABB calls it), which is the ability for the drive to create 100% torque at zero speed so that when you release the mechanical holding brake, the motor is already in full control by the drive, and when stopping, the drive can hold the motor still while you set the brake. You must have an encoder feedback for this.

You can not rely on Dynamic Braking for this, it is too slow and braking torque is a function of regenerated energy, so when the motor is stopped, there is no more braking torque.


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Not necessarily. Have a look at the Invertek and NFO Sinus inverters. One of their things is that they can hold a (hanging) load without an encoder and without any brake. Shown at the Hannover Messe and demonstrated in several practical applications. Sorry for repeating myself. Last time I said this was a few years ago...

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... and we still can’t buy them here...


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