CATIA V5 Future

[TiagoFigueiredo]

My company is pondering what to do for the future with CAD tools, today we have 2 CAD packages, and we want to go to only one package. We are making a lot of evaluation of some CAD tools. of course CATIA is in our list. but we have a lot of if's, and we are hesitating to

-What will happen with CATIA V5 beyond 2025?
-I heard as well (but didn't found info), that Dassault is planning to stop selling V5 from 2020. Is that true?
-I have seen a lot of companies struggling to get working properly 3d Experience
-Many of the macros working in V5 will need to be redeveloped to work again in 3dExperience.
-Every time we need to change to a new release of 3d Experience (working on it, it will be on premise), it will be hard work to upgrade the plm and CAD at the same time, and of course it will be always dependent on support, because it requires a lot of knowledge to have the plm working properly.
-The costs. Surprisingly 3D Experience is less costly than V5 (probably to make some incentive to people go for it). But it still remains quite costly compared to others.

Tiago Figueiredo
Tooling Engineer

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[kantoku]

I have read this article.
Link
'CATIA V5 is today totally supported and will be supported, I think, about until 2020. '
However, it is contents of 8 years ago.

 

[ferdo]

For sure you will have the possibility to migrate from V5 to 3DEx, like it was with V4...

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Fernando

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[iscariot]

I don't think migration from V4 to V5 is a good example, on the contary.

 

[ferdo]

I was thinking in terms of licensing.

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Fernando

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[Little Cthulhu]

Hi.

ferdo, do you have any insights of how V6 shipbuilding workbenches compare to V5?
I believe preserving existing functionality is the key aspect to consider while migrating.

 

[ferdo]

Hi

Little Ctuhulhu, I will search to see if I can find something clear but now I'm somewhere in the mountains, with limited access to Internet...

For those interested, you can even migrate V4 in V6 directly, you can see a video here. Migration (with history) can be done also for electrical workbenches (like in V5, but you have to know how to do it and what variables to set).

V5 to V6 is very simple, just import and that's all, almost everything will be there as you know in V5, depending on what you want and what you set to be done.

Even more, if you export from 3DEx (lets say 2018x), you can open in V5-6R2018 with history (same level, not inferior).

Regards
Fernando

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[iscariot]

I have done migration from V4 to V5 and 10% of time is migration itself and the rest correction of migration, it is not easy at all. I hope it will be easier from V5 to 3DEx as you have told.

 

[itsmyjob]

@iscariot:

migration from v5 to v6 or 3dx should be easier and provide better result than v4->v5. The reason is that the accuracy of v5 and 3dx are the same, while v4 and v5 might not work with the same accuracy (v4 accuracy depends on the model size).
I have seen much better geometry migration from v5 to 3dx than v4 to v5.
Now, specific files such as tubing, elec, HVAC, composite or structure might bring their own challenge.

Eric N.
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[ferdo]

@ iscariot

What does it means correction of migration? Can you give some examples? Is true that you need to work on V5 files but this depends on how V4 files were done and the methodology of your client (for sure you will not have sketches constraints for example usually because of how those are done in V4).

@ Little Ctuhulhu

Check more about 3DEx here. When you ask for license, DS (or VAR) will give you a wide range of roles to see which is more suitable for you. Inside you will find the workbenches (the ones which you already know or news attached to the role).

The link is for ACADEMIA but similar is also for full commercial roles.

I saw in the past a configuration tool but was available only for VAR. Anyway, they should know and help you to make a choice.

Regards
Fernando

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[Little Cthulhu]

V5 is very diverse CAD with many workbenches. Some data should migrate to V6 without major issues (simple geometry and assemblies created in Assembly/Part Design). Other will require manual migration (Equipment and Systems, Knowledgeware) or may not be implemented in V6 at all. The more features you use, the harder migration is going to be.

I see no point in sticking to V5, especially if you have another CAD (providing it is supported by it's developer well).