MollyK
Structural
- Jun 14, 2012
- 9
I have been working on the connection designs for a building that uses LLRS design. We also have some built up box members where we need to check the box sections for concentrated forces. I am using Chapter K as my guide for checking these columns (I did not design the box sections, just the moment connections). I was trying to figure out the applicability of the punching shear limit state. So I have a situation where Bp=13in, B=18in and t=1.5in. (The diagram in the commentary of the 13th ed. is helpful).
A) The manual states "this limit need not be checked when Bp>(B-2t), nor when Bp<0.85B."
--> 13" is not greater than 15", however 13" is less than 15.3" (0.85*18").
B) Furthermore, when I checked the commentary, pg.16-368 in AISC 13th ed., I found "(0.85) <= beta <= (1-2t/B) Basis: punching shear failure"
--> Beta = Bp/B = 0.833, so in my situation I am outside of the inequality.
2 Questions:
In regards to A), if only one of the 2 criterion is met, does punching shear still need to be checked.
In regards to B), since I am outside of this inequality, does that mean I need to change my moment connections, the flange plate width so that I do fall within these 2 numbers?
In general, I understand the idea of punching shear, and I am really confused as to why there would even be a statement stating that this need not be checked when Bp<0.85B. I would think that a box section would be more likely to fail in punching shear the smaller your transverse plate becomes.
Any help would be appreciated, I just had an hour long conversation with the EOR, and neither of us understand why that 85% of B is in there to begin with.
A) The manual states "this limit need not be checked when Bp>(B-2t), nor when Bp<0.85B."
--> 13" is not greater than 15", however 13" is less than 15.3" (0.85*18").
B) Furthermore, when I checked the commentary, pg.16-368 in AISC 13th ed., I found "(0.85) <= beta <= (1-2t/B) Basis: punching shear failure"
--> Beta = Bp/B = 0.833, so in my situation I am outside of the inequality.
2 Questions:
In regards to A), if only one of the 2 criterion is met, does punching shear still need to be checked.
In regards to B), since I am outside of this inequality, does that mean I need to change my moment connections, the flange plate width so that I do fall within these 2 numbers?
In general, I understand the idea of punching shear, and I am really confused as to why there would even be a statement stating that this need not be checked when Bp<0.85B. I would think that a box section would be more likely to fail in punching shear the smaller your transverse plate becomes.
Any help would be appreciated, I just had an hour long conversation with the EOR, and neither of us understand why that 85% of B is in there to begin with.