Chinese steel section properties

[rlewistx]

I'm working on to additions to a project in the USA that has steel shapes from China. I see shapes designations like HN500, HN446, HM440. I'm looking for a website that will give me section properties for the Chinese steel. I would like full properties such as A, Ix, Sx, Rx, etc. Any assistance would be appreciated.

Rich

 

[KootK]

You may find some useful info in one of my former threads: Link. Stuff I learned:

1) Size proportions can be quite different.
2) Quality control can be quite different.
3) Where Fy is different, b/t ratios change which apparently has something to do with why proportions are different.

For your sake, I hope that you're working with US shapes rolled in china rather than true Chinese shapes. It was pretty painful getting it all sorted.

I like to debate structural engineering theory -- a lot. If I challenge you on something, know that I'm doing so because I respect your opinion enough to either change it or adopt it.

 

[rlewistx]

Unfortunately they are true Chinese shapes. The drawings show a mix of traditional USA wide flanges and Chinese shapes. My new structure will be supported on both so I need to check capacities of each. That is why I need section properties of Chinese shapes.

The drawings state the Chinese steel is ASTM 992.

 

[SlideRuleEra]

See this brochure from Fluxin Steel

Appears properties for your examples HN500 and HN446 are on Page 4, and HM440 on Page 3.

http://www.SlideRuleEra.net

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[delagina]

what software are you using? Staad has Chinese properties. Risa probably has it also

 

[rlewistx]

Thanks for the link. Being from the slide rule era you appreciate a good printout of the document. Unfortunately the PDF is a no-print documents. Thanks anyway.

 

[rlewistx]

I don't use STAAD or RISA. I use Bentley RAM Elements. I did not see Chinese shapes in my data base.

 

[EdStainless]

Use software to take an image of the pdf, then print it. Sometimes these are a little fuzzy, but they work.

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P.E. Metallurgy, Plymouth Tube

 

[rlewistx]

That's what I ended up doing.

Thanks.

 

[hokie66]

You need a lot more than just the section properties to evaluate imported steel. Some of the issues are very complex.

https://www.engineersaustralia.org....ral_steel_-_are_you_getting_what_you_need.pdf