Command to split/Divide solid without mat'l removal??

[RyanRun]

I have a solid model that I would like to split (Or what ever Catia calls it) without removing any material.

I am trying to take a solid shape and split the solid into two separate halves, so I can apply draft.

The split command removes part of the solid. I would like to select a plane the separate the halves.

 

[jackk]

Rather than split the solid, why not draft both sides in one step? (in the More>> panel, turn on PARTING=NUETRAL and DRAFT BOTH SIDES)

 

[Albigger]

jackk's suggestion is a good one.


However, I have had to do similar to what you are talking about before. If I actually want two part bodies, I will "copy-> paste special as result with link" the parent body two times, then split each resultant body in half at the split plane, and I can work them separately.

If I want two solids within the one part body, I will draw a line on the cut-plane and do a thick pocket, with a very small value (.0001 for example). But I don't really recommend this approach, as it can cause problems down the road if you are trying to match up geometry etc...

 

[LWolf]

another way to split a solid and keep both parts would be to use the split feature located in Generative Shape Design, and tick the "keep both sides" option. What you then get is the extruded surfaces. Back in Part Design you could then create separate bodies and "close" the respective surface in each body.

 

[solid7]

I am trying to take a solid shape and split the solid into two separate halves, so I can apply draft.

The split command removes part of the solid. I would like to select a plane the separate the halves.

Even if you wanted to "split" the draft, so as to draft 2 different angles on either side of the parting line, why do you need a special "split" command to do this? Assuming that you are drafting from the parting line, (which is the only way to ensure that there is no mismatch) you can define ANY plane as the neutral split, and either do as Jackk suggested, or just do 2 separate draft operations, using the plane as the Neutral/Parting surface.

I understand what you are trying to do as something similar to the Split operation in GSD, where you are given the option to keep both halves. But I haven't seen your explanation as to why you think this necessary. Can you provide more details?

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[itsmyjob]

As you want 2 solids as the result you need 2 solids as the input.

Copy past your solid in your file (with link or not, this is up to you)

Then Split and add Draft to each of them.

Eric N.
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[RyanRun]

Thanks for all the help.

I'm just a little curious as to why Solid7 always has to jump all over posts that he may not agree him. I've read to many replies where he had a negative reply to a question. The fact of the matter is it doesn't really matter what I am doing, only wheather or not the software can do what I am asking. I have my reasons for asking the question, so you should simply stick to trying to anwser the question or not say anything at all.

I'm well aware of the draft options in both Draft and advanced draft, but that was not my question.

 

[solid7]

RyanRun... I think it is you who have jumped all over me.

Simply asking why someone wants to do a thing is not the same as jumping all over them. Maybe you don't realize it, but the way you ask a question may not make sense to some people. And those same people who actually take their own time to try to help you out is wasted if they don't understand your point, and you fail to clarify it.

What do you think is so wrong with asking for clarification? I could easily jump on your case for being ungrateful, when I was only attempting to find out what you are doing. Sometimes, there are better ways to do things. If you are not open to them, then maybe forums are not the place for you to be asking your questions. For my part, despite having more Catia experience than the average user - I am a user, administrator, purchaser, and business owner - I find that I learn new things all the time. But I don't do it by spitting in the face of people who *dare* to question my methods, as if they were sacred.

Please note, I will not attempt to help you in the future, just so there is no misunderstanding between us.

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[catiajim]

Having worked level 1 and level 2 support for many years now, I generally ask Why as the very first thing. 9 times out of 10, the question the user asks isn't really the thing they really need. They have been gnawing on a problem for a while, and are stuck. By asking why they want to do something, I can usually find a different way to attack the problem that is much simpler.

While Solid7's tone may be a little terse at times (sorry Matt), he is only trying to help.

 

[solid7]

While Solid7's tone may be a little terse at times (sorry Matt), he is only trying to help.

Let's all remember that the internet doesn't convey emotion, other than through the use of things like bold letters, capitalization, emoticons, etc, NONE of which I used. I was simply trying to help. At no point did I get personal with RyanRun, nor was I being rude. I didn't even disagree, I just asked "why".

In any case, even if I were being rude - which I was not - this is not the help desk. People who are using this forum are receiving services which would cost a *minimum* of $80-$120 US/hr, if they were to actually pay for them. Yet, many of us volunteer our own time, and get no thanks, whatsoever. In the case of the person who replied to me, the forum stats say that he/she has started 33 threads, replied to none, (other than his/her own) and received no votes for helpful advice. My own stats show more votes than threads started, and many times more replies. The point being, if you're not giving anything back, you have even less room to attack a regular contributor. (an outright bannable offense, in my opinion - and I know the forum owner agrees with me on this one)

Just remember one thing - even if someone *is* rude with you here, the advice is still probably worth more than you've paid for it.

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[RyanRun]

I wasn't going to reply to this thread again, because I knew this wasn't the place for it. However, after reading Solid7 latest thread, I just had to chime back in.
This will be my last reply and there will be nothing further directed towards another person on this forum.

I'm not trying to start a feud here, I was only stating what I feel is a "Superiority Complex" that you seem to attach to some of your replies. Maybe I was wrong, maybe I wasn't. It just doesn't need to be thrown back in someones face that you may be more knowledgable about a topic then another user. I'm here for help, not to be lectured.

"My own stats show more votes than threads started, and many times more replies. The point being, if you're not giving anything back, you have even less room to attack a regular contributor. (an outright bannable offense, in my opinion - and I know the forum owner agrees with me on this one)"

So What!...tell me you are not trying to show someone up or flaunt your superior knowledge. Get over yourself.

As was mentioned in your latest thread, you are correct, I don't answer threads. Partly because I don't have time, but probably mostly because I know I am not as knowledgable as yourself and others on this forum.

If you are calling what I did an attack, then look in the mirror...what do you call what you said in your latest thread reply?

"...Yet, many of us volunteer our own time, and get no thanks, whatsoever."

If you are doing it for the recognition, then you are doing it for the wrong reason.

 

[solid7]

RyanRun - as stated previously - you have my personal assurance that I will NEVER go out of my way to help you in the future. (on this or any other forum) And with your attitude, I sincerely hope that others will think twice before doing so, either.

Best of luck to you.

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[Albigger]

Another reason to provide more info is so the rest of us can learn something as well.

For instance, I would still like to know the application, which method you used and why, and how it worked out.

I realize not everyone is willing to provide this information, but I have learned quite a bit from the forums from those that do.

-- Jay

 

[CATPart]

I completely agree with solid7, because I have received a lot of help from some people on this forum...
And don't forget that replying on daily basis takes a lot of time, and we all know that time is precious!

Damir

 

[itsmyjob]

another solution from the one mentioned previously is to use GSO license and create Volumes with a GSD / GSO Split and ask CATIA to keep both side.

The result will then be 2 Volumes, not solids. but you can turn them in Solids with Part Design's Close surface.

the best way to end a conflict is to apology, no matter if you are right or wrong.

I am pretty sure that some of you (including myself) can find some of my replies not very kind. I want to apology here for my past behavior. We all have bad days, we all do mistakes and we can all learn from them.

Let's move on, all of us, and focus on the purpose of the forum : sharing information about CATIA.

Eric N.
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