sow
Mechanical
- Nov 30, 2001
- 44
We have to control the flow to full treatment on a sewage plant, to a maximum of 3.25m3/s.
The existing channel is 3m wide, and due to various constraints we cant use a control valve (e.g. eccentric plug), therefore the control must be in an open channel.
Weir penstocks are not favoured due to the build up of solids. Flumes, hydrobrakes etc cause hydraulic problems.
Many engineers have reservations regarding the use of an actuated penstock gates (i.e. ones that close downwards), as it is believed that these can "hunt" excessively. This may be due to the non linearity of the equations governing flows through orrifices and/ or mechanical hysteresis in the valve. There are those who believe that you can not control large penstocks with the required accuracy due to the need to open the penstocks in large steps, I for one do not believe that this is the case, why cant you crack a valve this size in 10mm increments?
Does anybody have experience of using penstocks for automatic flow control, in particular something of this size?
I am also interested in penstocks that close horizontally, like lift doors. Does anybody know of any manufacturers?
Any other penstock types better suited to flow control?
Are weir penstocks really any better than the gate type - I can only think that the you can control the free discharge , unlike a penstock, therefore the linearity is better.
It is thought that hunting and its effects may be reduced by the following, any more suggestions?
1) Controller to be specifically suited to penstock open channel flow control.
2) Actuator to be "oversized" and /or high spec.
3) Using a large penstock to control the majority of the flow, with a smaller one for trimming to the desired value.
4) An appropriate control algorithm.
5) High spec penstock.
Thanks
Sow
The existing channel is 3m wide, and due to various constraints we cant use a control valve (e.g. eccentric plug), therefore the control must be in an open channel.
Weir penstocks are not favoured due to the build up of solids. Flumes, hydrobrakes etc cause hydraulic problems.
Many engineers have reservations regarding the use of an actuated penstock gates (i.e. ones that close downwards), as it is believed that these can "hunt" excessively. This may be due to the non linearity of the equations governing flows through orrifices and/ or mechanical hysteresis in the valve. There are those who believe that you can not control large penstocks with the required accuracy due to the need to open the penstocks in large steps, I for one do not believe that this is the case, why cant you crack a valve this size in 10mm increments?
Does anybody have experience of using penstocks for automatic flow control, in particular something of this size?
I am also interested in penstocks that close horizontally, like lift doors. Does anybody know of any manufacturers?
Any other penstock types better suited to flow control?
Are weir penstocks really any better than the gate type - I can only think that the you can control the free discharge , unlike a penstock, therefore the linearity is better.
It is thought that hunting and its effects may be reduced by the following, any more suggestions?
1) Controller to be specifically suited to penstock open channel flow control.
2) Actuator to be "oversized" and /or high spec.
3) Using a large penstock to control the majority of the flow, with a smaller one for trimming to the desired value.
4) An appropriate control algorithm.
5) High spec penstock.
Thanks
Sow