jamestan
Chemical
- Feb 14, 2017
- 4
I just started in a small Indonesian rubber compound manufacturing company and one urgent task is to setup an unused oil Burner & boiler to power existing autoclaves.
Basically, owner signed contract for gas power supply line for a new pilot wire production facility within the area, but due to COVID-19, we are stuck with a half-done plant and a monthly fixed fee for unused gas. The autoclave in existing rubber plant runs on steam from coal-powered boiler, but we have an IHI boiler attached with Weishaupt oil burner that have been idle for 15 years.
Owner now wants me to either:
- Convert existing Weishaupt oil burner to either gas burner / dual-fuel burner and start using gas.
- Procure new gas burner and setup with existing boiler.
I'm hoping experts on eng-tips can lend me some wisdom, and would greatly appreciate if anyone can kindly answer these questions:
1a. Is it possible to convert Oil Burner to dual-fuel / Gas Burner? If so, how complex is the process, what items would you need and how long will it take?
- I'm asking because all Indonesian Burner service engineers we've contacted said it's better to buy new as converting is impractical / impossible and potentially risky, since it causes burner to deteriorate faster, creating operational issues. But I found some companies in UK and US claiming on their website that they offer these services reliably. Which one is true?
1b. Is this the exhaustive list of dual-fuel burner's pros and cons, or am I missing some stuff?
**Dual-Fuel**
*Pros:
- Flexibility to switch fuel types, depending on fuel price.
*Cons:
- Higher emissions.
- Needs larger space.
- Possibly lower efficiency.
- Possibly higher maintenance.
2. Based on your personal experience, what Burner & Boiler brands would you recommend, in terms of reliability, ease-of-maintenance and bang-for-buck (e.g like a Toyota or Honda)? I did some research and found that following brands have great reputations, and I would appreciate your opinions on them:
**Burners**:
- Riello
- Beckett
- Carlin
- Weishaupt
- Bntet
- Dunphy
**Boilers**:
- Ishikawajima-Harima Heavy Industries (i.e IHI; this is our boiler brand)
- Miura
- Bosch
3. How do you calculate burner's & boiler's actual efficiency values during operational use?
4. What burner size do you actually need for a 5 ton/hr steam boiler?
- Management wants to make sure that suppliers are not scamming us by selling overly-expensive equipment, and that the burner capacity is just right for the job. In my calculation, under 70% boiler efficiency assumption, seems like existing burner is slightly below capacity for the boiler. Is 70% efficiency value typical for an unmaintained boiler? I've attached my work below, and can provide pictures of the boilers' insides as well.
- Also, owner (who is also a non-engineer) said I shouldn't use 5 ton/hr in my calculations because in reality, we are not actually using the whole 5 ton/hr steam capacity during the rubber curing process. I'm not sure, but how do I check if this is true?
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Equipment List and Specs:
1. Weishaupt RMS10 Heavy Oil Burner
- Oil flow at 100 - 380 kg/hr.
2. Ishikawajima-Harima Heavy Industries (IHI) Boiler
- 5 ton/hr steam capacity.
3. Weishaupt L10T Light Oil Burner
- Oil flow at 100 - 360 kg/hr.
For both oil burners, the owner said they had been using high-speed diesel, rated at 45.5 MJ/kg.
Here's my calculation:
Since 1 ton/hr steam = 700kW boiler capacity
5 ton/hr steam x 700kW = 3500kW boiler cap.
Assuming 70% Boiler efficiency:
3500kW / 0.7 = 5000kW
Thus, theoretical required oil flow rate:
[5000 kW x 3.6 MJ/kWh] / 45.5 MJ/kg = 395.6 kg/hr
***Source***
1. For my calculation formula:
2. For theoretical energy density value of high-speed diesel / gasoil:
Basically, owner signed contract for gas power supply line for a new pilot wire production facility within the area, but due to COVID-19, we are stuck with a half-done plant and a monthly fixed fee for unused gas. The autoclave in existing rubber plant runs on steam from coal-powered boiler, but we have an IHI boiler attached with Weishaupt oil burner that have been idle for 15 years.
Owner now wants me to either:
- Convert existing Weishaupt oil burner to either gas burner / dual-fuel burner and start using gas.
- Procure new gas burner and setup with existing boiler.
I'm hoping experts on eng-tips can lend me some wisdom, and would greatly appreciate if anyone can kindly answer these questions:
1a. Is it possible to convert Oil Burner to dual-fuel / Gas Burner? If so, how complex is the process, what items would you need and how long will it take?
- I'm asking because all Indonesian Burner service engineers we've contacted said it's better to buy new as converting is impractical / impossible and potentially risky, since it causes burner to deteriorate faster, creating operational issues. But I found some companies in UK and US claiming on their website that they offer these services reliably. Which one is true?
1b. Is this the exhaustive list of dual-fuel burner's pros and cons, or am I missing some stuff?
**Dual-Fuel**
*Pros:
- Flexibility to switch fuel types, depending on fuel price.
*Cons:
- Higher emissions.
- Needs larger space.
- Possibly lower efficiency.
- Possibly higher maintenance.
2. Based on your personal experience, what Burner & Boiler brands would you recommend, in terms of reliability, ease-of-maintenance and bang-for-buck (e.g like a Toyota or Honda)? I did some research and found that following brands have great reputations, and I would appreciate your opinions on them:
**Burners**:
- Riello
- Beckett
- Carlin
- Weishaupt
- Bntet
- Dunphy
**Boilers**:
- Ishikawajima-Harima Heavy Industries (i.e IHI; this is our boiler brand)
- Miura
- Bosch
3. How do you calculate burner's & boiler's actual efficiency values during operational use?
4. What burner size do you actually need for a 5 ton/hr steam boiler?
- Management wants to make sure that suppliers are not scamming us by selling overly-expensive equipment, and that the burner capacity is just right for the job. In my calculation, under 70% boiler efficiency assumption, seems like existing burner is slightly below capacity for the boiler. Is 70% efficiency value typical for an unmaintained boiler? I've attached my work below, and can provide pictures of the boilers' insides as well.
- Also, owner (who is also a non-engineer) said I shouldn't use 5 ton/hr in my calculations because in reality, we are not actually using the whole 5 ton/hr steam capacity during the rubber curing process. I'm not sure, but how do I check if this is true?
===================================================
Equipment List and Specs:
1. Weishaupt RMS10 Heavy Oil Burner
- Oil flow at 100 - 380 kg/hr.
2. Ishikawajima-Harima Heavy Industries (IHI) Boiler
- 5 ton/hr steam capacity.
3. Weishaupt L10T Light Oil Burner
- Oil flow at 100 - 360 kg/hr.
For both oil burners, the owner said they had been using high-speed diesel, rated at 45.5 MJ/kg.
Here's my calculation:
Since 1 ton/hr steam = 700kW boiler capacity
5 ton/hr steam x 700kW = 3500kW boiler cap.
Assuming 70% Boiler efficiency:
3500kW / 0.7 = 5000kW
Thus, theoretical required oil flow rate:
[5000 kW x 3.6 MJ/kWh] / 45.5 MJ/kg = 395.6 kg/hr
***Source***
1. For my calculation formula:
2. For theoretical energy density value of high-speed diesel / gasoil: