Default Settings Via a Common Part - Just the .PRT, or the .DPV too? 3

[MASawtell]

Scenario:

Created a 'Common Part' - so that all part generated by Company X are based on that .PRT - whether it is a UGMASTER or UGPART

Issue:

Certain Company X Modeling and Drafting Criteria have been refined, or may have been missed, requiring a refinement of the Common Part

Problem:

Attempts to save refinements have produced mixed results - some annotation settings appear to have not been saved

Question:

Editing and Revising the Common Part not the only item to be done? Does work on any other NX files, will the .ENV or .DPV file need to be done as well?

 

[JohnRBaker]

When you say 'Common Part' are you referring to a Part Template file which is opened then renamed using Save As (or simply doing a Save if it's actually being opened as a Template Part) after which you then create your models in this Part file?

John R. Baker, P.E.
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[MASawtell]

Yes, this would be considered a Template File. Sorry, been a while since I have had to get this deep, and I am feeling a bit rusty.

The original template is at Revision A in Teamcenter, and I am attempting to work with a Revision B.

 

[JohnRBaker]

So you want to edit 'Revision B', EH?

Well with Teamcenter this may be trickier as you need to make sure that you know exactly what part is being referenced asnd then edited.

That being said, if you're attempting to update the Template Part you have to keep in mind that you will need to open it, make the changes to your Preferences as well as any objects that you might have pre-created in your model such as perhaps adding a Datum CSYS, Attributes, Layer Categories, etc and then save it without Teamcenter making it yet another revision. Note that these changes have to be made within the Part file itself. Editing the Customer Defaults will have NO effect on any Part Specific settings/preferences inside of any existing Part file.

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Engineering Software
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA

http://www.siemens.com/plm

UG/NX Museum:

http://www.plmworld.org/p/cm/ld/fid=209

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

 

[jpetach]

MASawtell,

The pax file for the File New templates needs to be edited with an ascii editor to change the /A revision to /B for the entry/entries that point to the item that contains the template part.

Check the NX system log for TC_NX_FileNewPAXFiles
If that is defined it will indicate the names of the Teamcenter item revision containing the pax files to revise.

Otherwise, search the log for "pax for File New Templates" to get the operating system location(s) and name(s) of the pax file(s) at your site to edit.

HTH,

Joe

 

[MASawtell]

Ah Ha! Figured there was an additional file in the mix (the PAX file), thanks jpetach.

As for the "open it, make the changes to your Preferences as well as any objects that you might have pre-created in your model such as perhaps adding a Datum CSYS, Attributes, Layer Categories, etc and then save it"... that is the part that is driving me buggy JohnRBaker.

I open the part, make the changes in the Preferences, then save the file. Open it up again, and... same prefereneces as before the save. I can't help but think I am missing a step on the saving of the preferences before the saving of the file.

 

[JohnRBaker]

Note that some preferences are not saved with the Part file. These are ones which only effect the NX session itself. That being said, these settings often can be modified by making a change to Customer Defaults, but again, it will only effect your NX session and will have no effect on Part files opened or saved during that session.

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Engineering Software
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA

http://www.siemens.com/plm

UG/NX Museum:

http://www.plmworld.org/p/cm/ld/fid=209

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

 

[MASawtell]

Uh... does the nice folks at GTAC have a white paper on which settings can be dealt with at the template file level, versus editing the Customer Defaults File (.DPV)?

Truth be told, most of what needs to be done is drafting annotation (font and symbol sizes, crosshatching styles, etc.).

 

[looslib]

Those little settings that you needed in each file were one of the nicest things about using a GRIP program to create new parts. I could ask the designer some questions, then create the part and customize the settings in one shot. I suppose you could stil do it with a template file and using GRIP to chnage the annotation style, etc.


"Wildfires are dangerous, hard to control, and economically catastrophic."

Ben Loosli

 

[JohnRBaker]

There is one way of finding out which Customer Default settings are Part versus Session dependent. Go to Customer Defaults and then select the 'Find Default' icon in the upper right corner (the one with the image of a pair of binoculars) and enter the text 'NX' (as every entry has that in it's record) and you will get a complete list of all Customer Default entries. Now scroll to far Right and select the column titled 'Scope' and you will now have a list, first of all of the Part specific and then of all of the Session specific settings (you will find that the vast majority of Customer Default entries are 'Session' specific).

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Engineering Software
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA

http://www.siemens.com/plm

UG/NX Museum:

http://www.plmworld.org/p/cm/ld/fid=209

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

 

[MASawtell]

Thanks John, that command is helpful - but... how can I get this information into something I can sort and parse better, like Excel?

 

[cowski]

After you follow his directions, right click in the grid and choose export to spreadsheet.

 

[MASawtell]

Nice... thanks cowski - now the 'fun' starts...