Dimensions showing up in Info do not exist 3

[treddie]

Hello.

I think I found a bug in Creo, but it could just be I'm totally clueless as to what is happening here. I have a file that had its fair share of revisions over the years. When I went to inspect the Info for each feature, I stumbled upon two part dimensions(d#'s) that do not seem to belong to anything. So I simplified the file by removing everything except for two Revolve features

All of the legitimate dimensions are all accounted for...I can highlight each dimension by clicking on it in the feature info window, and the corresponding dimension will show up in the render window with the corresponding value.

However, there are two extra dimensions called out in the info, which when clicked, only highlight the same Revolve feature's shape and the axis of revolution, but no dimension shows up. These two d#'s do not correlate to any corresponding internal Sketcher reference or part-level feature, although Creo insists they are part of the Revolve sketch.

Therefore, I am assuming this is a bug in Creo where some old information never got purged from the file, when its associated feature was deleted, or perhaps when some sketch dimensions were replaced with new ones. Attached is a jpg showing the problem.

Has anyone else seen this before?

 

[mjcole]

The only thing I can think of is they may be weak dims or driven ones. Try also suppress and unsuppress or delete/undo and see if they dissapear on next info. The other thing to try is using the trl+f finder or equations which can let you search for the offending d# symbol or value.

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[dgallup]

I would make a drawing with several views and try showing the offending dimensions.

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[treddie]

Hm, good points. I'll give them both a try, and report back.

Many thanks!

 

[treddie]

No go on Supress/Resume or Delete/Undo.

The other thing to try is using the trl+f finder or equations which can let you search for the offending d# symbol or value.

I assume you mean working with trail files? I deleted them long ago for this part, unfortunately.

I would make a drawing with several views and try showing the offending dimensions.

No go there as well...They just don't show up when I view the annotations.

This may be one of those rare weird issues that I'll never run into again.

 

[dgallup]

Cntrl Alt Delete

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[3DDave]

Dimensions can be put on layers and blanked. I recall considering this for my list of 101 ways users can mess with each other. I used it when working with VSA software to hide the dimensions that had been added to the VSA model.

If they are not hidden, then try driving them using a part relation to see if anything is affected.

It is possible that it isn't a Creo flaw, but a failure of some earlier version of the software. It's one thing to correctly add and remove dimensions based on current user activities, but if this was done incorrectly previously, it's asking a lot for the software to correct a flawed database.

mjcole was suggesting using crtl-f to start the Find function, though trail files could be a source if you still had them.

 

[treddie]

Cntrl Alt Delete

I tried that and my screen went blank.
...Joking of course.

3DDave > I'll try your idea of forcing a relation on the dimensions. Good point, to check if anything changes as a result.

 

[mjcole]

3dDave you are correct as to the find tool (binoculars) you can search for dims by name d## or od# for ordinate dims. The relations or equation editor also has an option to show dimension value for a given dim name. Hopefully it's not a declare value from a layout. It may just be an automatic weak dim. I usually use a wd mapkey to toggle the sketch options for the Weak Dims. Toggling show weak dims on may help.

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[treddie]

Heheh. This is funny. I wrote a relation as suggested and gave the two dimensions whacked out values, and everything regened just fine, with no visible changes to anything. So I think these two bits of information are like junk DNA left over from some previous Wildfire session.