Draftsight Software

[macduff]

Hello All,
Our IT dept said they need to uninstall Draftsight because we need to pay for enterprise version using here at work. Is this true? They said the free download is for home use only.

Please help because I'm in a middle of a project and need this software till I transfe my data into SW.

Thanks,



Colin Fitzpatrick (aka Macduff)
Mechanical Designer
Solidworks 2010 SP 5.0
Dell T5500 Windows 7 Pro (64-bit)
Xeon CPU 2.53 GHz 6.00 GB of RAM
nVida Quadro 4000 2 GB
3D Connexion-SpaceExplorer

 

[Eltron]

The enterprise version is only if you want support and networked licenses.

http://www.3ds.com/products/draftsight/services

Tell your IT guys to go scratch.

Dan

http://www.eltronresearch.com

Dan's Blog

 

[ctopher]

There are three versions.

http://www.3ds.com/products/draftsight/services

It's possible CATIA said something to them...been there.

Chris
SolidWorks 11
ctopher's home
SolidWorks Legion

 

[MikeHalloran]

You could ask in the Draftsight forum.

... but...

I remember acknowledging a longish gobbledygook license agreement, so your IT guys may be right.
If they've asked other than verbally, you probably have little choice in the matter.

Maybe your boss has enough 'juice' to delay the transition from free license to enterprise license until you have completed your project. The IT people themselves probably have knowledge of many such transitions that went badly. They may not admit it if their boss is an ogre. ... which seems to be a common qualification for IT bosses.



Mike Halloran
Pembroke Pines, FL, USA

 

[Eltron]

Here is the actual license agreement:

This End User License Agreement for No-Charge Software ("Agreement") is made by and between Dassault Systèmes SA, 10 rue Marcel Dassault, 78140, Vélizy-Villacoublay, France ("DS") and you ("Licensee").

IMPORTANT – READ CAREFULLY: The terms and conditions below set forth a legal agreement between DS and Licensee relating to the data processing program license distributed with, or otherwise subject to, this Agreement (the "Licensed Programs(s)"). Licensee should carefully read these terms and conditions BEFORE downloading and installing the Licensed Program(s).
1. LICENSE

DS hereby grants to Licensee a no charge, non-transferable and non-exclusive license to use the Licensed Program(s) solely in accordance with this Agreement. Unless otherwise agreed in writing by DS in a separate agreement: (i) Licensee acknowledges and agrees that DS shall have no obligation to provide any services, support or maintenance for the Licensed Program(s) under this Agreement, and (ii) the Licensed Program(s) may be installed, executed and accessed by Users on hardware belonging to Licensee ("Machines"), and may not be executed or accessed by any other means, including without limitation via a network. "Users" include Licensee as well as its employees, students, consultants and subcontractors who access the Licensed Program(s) on Machines. Licensee may make the necessary number of copies of the applicable Licensed Program(s) for installation and one copy for back-up of each Licensed Program in support of Licensee's authorized use pursuant to this Agreement. No rights including any right to use, reproduce, display, other than those specifically described in this Agreement are granted to Licensee. Except to the extent permitted by applicable law, Licensee shall not analyze for purposes competitive to DS, reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble, or otherwise translate all or part of the Licensed Program(s). In the event Licensee wishes to ensure the interoperability, within the limits of its authorized use as defined in this Agreement, of the Licensed Program(s) with other computer software or with equipment under conditions provided for by law (including without limitation laws implementing the directive 2009/24/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 23 April 2009 on the legal protection of computer programs), Licensee must ask DS for a license to use standard interfaces, exclusively for internal use to achieve interoperability. DS will grant Licensee a license to use the standard interfaces at the then current prices and contractual conditions of DS or, if standard interfaces are not available, DS, for a fee, may provide Licensee with the necessary information to permit interoperability. Licensee is not authorized to give access to these interfaces to any person other than Users.
2. TERM & TERMINATION

This Agreement shall come into full force and effect upon Licensee's acceptance of these terms and conditions, which acceptance is indicated by selecting the "Accept" button in the dialog presenting this Agreement, by downloading and/or installing and/or using the Licensed Program(s), and/or by your acceptance of another agreement that references and incorporates this Agreement, whichever occurs first. This Agreement may be terminated at any time by DS for any breach hereof upon notice to Licensee. Periodic activation may be required by Licensee in order to continue use of the Licensed Program(s). Use of the Licensed Program(s) may be interrupted until necessary activation steps are taken by Licensee. Upon termination hereof, Licensee shall immediately uninstall and delete all copies of the Licensed Program(s) and discontinue use of the Licensed Program(s). The sections entitled "PROTECTION AND NON-DISCLOSURE", "WARRANTY AND DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTY, RISK OF USE, LIMITATION OF LIABILITY AND INDEMNITY" and "GOVERNING LAW AND JURISDICTION" shall survive termination of this Agreement.
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The Licensed Program(s), including any copies made by or for Licensee, in whole or in part, are the sole property of DS or its licensor(s). All intellectual property rights in the Licensed Program(s) belong exclusively to DS or its licensor(s). DS and/or its licensors shall retain all title, copyright and other intellectual property rights in the Licensed Program(s) and all modifications, enhancements or other works derivative of the Licensed Program(s).

Licensee shall preserve and reproduce any copyright, patent and trademark notices which may appear in the Licensed Program(s) on all copies thereof, in whole or part. Licensee shall keep full, true and accurate records of all copies of the Licensed Program(s), which records shall be available for audit by DS.

Licensee recognizes that the methodologies, techniques, expressions, ideas and concepts contained in or expressed within the Licensed Program(s) are proprietary information and trade secrets of DS or its licensor(s). Licensee shall treat them as confidential information and never disclose them.
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Except as expressly permitted herein, this Agreement may be modified only by written amendment signed by the parties and no other act, document, usage or custom shall be deemed to amend or modify this Agreement, including but not limited to Licensee's terms and conditions. The Agreement shall be governed and construed in accordance with the laws of France. The Commercial Court of Paris ("Tribunal de Commerce de Paris") shall have exclusive jurisdiction to hear any dispute arising out of or in connection with the interpretation and/or performance of this Agreement, however, the parties acknowledge and agree that in the event that the subject matter of any such dispute is intellectual property, DS shall have the right to bring any such dispute before the French Civil Court having jurisdiction pursuant to the French Code of Civil Procedure ("Code de Procédure Civile"). Licensee acknowledges and agrees that the last two sentences above shall not prevent, restrict or otherwise limit in any manner, DS' rights to seek equitable remedies, including injunctive relief before any competent court in any jurisdiction.
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Dan

http://www.eltronresearch.com

Dan's Blog

 

[CorBlimeyLimey]

As far as I am aware, the free version of Draftsight is for all users. The Draftsight website states that it is a standalone version for "professional CAD users", and to me, that statement means it is not just for "home" users.

The Premium Pack is an extension of the individual/standalone version to give enterprises and educational institutions networked software deployment, customization and technical support.

See here for more details;

http://www.3ds.com/products/draftsight/overview/

 

[macduff]

Thank you all! You folks are so helpful.

Best,


Colin Fitzpatrick (aka Macduff)
Mechanical Designer
Solidworks 2010 SP 5.0
Dell T5500 Windows 7 Pro (64-bit)
Xeon CPU 2.53 GHz 6.00 GB of RAM
nVida Quadro 4000 2 GB
3D Connexion-SpaceExplorer

 

[MikeHalloran]

Be aware that
>even if you are right and they are wrong<
arguing with IT can be a career decision.

Only you know enough about your environment to tell.



Mike Halloran
Pembroke Pines, FL, USA

 

[CorBlimeyLimey]

macduff,

To be sure, why not contact Dassault and ask?

http://www.3ds.com/contact/

 

[fcsuper]

DraftSight is not limited to home use. I'm not sure where that came from. That wasn't even stated in the Beta release version EULA, which did have a clause about commercial use (that was mis-interpreted by some to mean it could not be used for commerical use). Essentially, a disclaimer in the Beta release EULA was misinterpreted as a licensing limitation. Either way, this is not a limition on the free production released version that is currently available.

Matt Lorono, CSWP
Product Definition Specialist, DS SolidWorks Corp
Personal sites:
Lorono's SolidWorks Resources & SolidWorks Legion

 

[macduff]

All,

1) Called my VAR
2) Called SW
3) Called Dassault (CBL's idea)

All 3 said it's ok to download/install standalone on business computers or any computer.

Thanks for all the help!

Colin Fitzpatrick (aka Macduff)
Mechanical Designer
Solidworks 2010 SP 5.0
Dell T5500 Windows 7 Pro (64-bit)
Xeon CPU 2.53 GHz 6.00 GB of RAM
nVida Quadro 4000 2 GB
3D Connexion-SpaceExplorer