Drawing Question (Lintels in First or Second Floor Plan?)

[RareBugTX]

What is the general consensus in this forum as to where the lintels should be drawn. I have seen plans from different firms without consitency in this issue.

Should lintels of first floor windows, use as a background the first or second floor?

You feedback is appreciated.

 

[whyun]

Architect would show the window at the first floor level. Structural engineer would show the lintel for that window at the second floor level. It is a matter of convention but structural engineers uaually like to show the "supports".

 

[apsix]

I agree with whyun.

 

[dik]

Most of my experience is that the lintel is shown below the floor. A lintel supporting second floor framing would be shown on the second floor. Early concrete drawings I've seen and some house framing plans show a reflected support plan.

Dik

 

[UcfSE]

On plan, we show the floor or roof framing and beams, lintels or supports in the wall below. So lintels for the first floor openings would show up on the second floor plan.

 

[CFSEng]

I was told engineers cut their floor sections right above floor level while architects cut their floor sections several feet above floor level. The drawings I have seen (including my own) tend to be consistent with this.