Drawings, formats and layouts, oh my!

[Guest0527211403]

Hi everyone

The fun never ends for me.. At least the new bosses are keeping me challenged

I'm working on a drawing of an assembly that is driven by a layout. The assembly is declared to the layout which has a number of parameters in it that I want to track in the drawing (i.e. engineer initials, drawing titles, etc).

When I look at the parameter list in the assembly, I can see all of the parameters I want to track, since they have been inherited from the layout. I was assuming that since these are visible to the assembly, when I start a new drawing using a format that calls for the same parameter, these values will update on their own.

It seems that this is not the case.

When I start my drawing, Pro/E asks me for all the parameters! It's really annoying since there are 40-ish parameters, and it asks me for these values every time I make a new sheet. I've sort of made it better using the config option 'make_parameters_from_fmt_tables", as this creates drawing parameters that subsequent pages can use. But I'd rather track these from the layout so that way we can centralize where all the information comes from.

So, does anyone know how to make a drawing see layout parameters?

On a similar note, I want to make notes in my drawing that points to parameters in the layout. (i.e. &H:0 where H is a parameter that component 0 has inherited from the layout) I can do this with dimensions, but not inherited parameters.

Any ideas?
Thanks in advance
(WF2 M160, WinXP)

 

[looslib]

ARe you using a PDM system? I had a problem where parameters in the part file would not be transferred to the draing until the part file had been saved, checked in, erased from memory and then reopened before starting the drawing.

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[Guest0527211403]

Hi Ben

Intralink is here, but is yet to be implemented. For now, I'm working locally on these files. Despite that, I saved, rebooted Pro, and tried again, and still no dice.

I've found sort of a work-around but I'm open to other suggestions.

The workaround is to write relations in the assembly itself and then change my parameter names in my layout.

So if I want to track the parameter rev1_date, I can make a layout parameter 'lay_rev1_date' and then make the relation in the assembly:

rev1_date = lay_rev1_date

But it seems silly to me that the drawing can't see parameters that the assembly has inherited. Is there some strange rationale for this?

Thanks

 

[Tofflemire]

Hey JustKeepgiviner

I looked at my format and noticed something different for the parameters. I do not have :0 after any of my live parameters in the formats. You have (i.e. &H:0 where H is a parameter. But after I bring in an assembly or piece part the :### appears. Try changing your format to remove the :0, save, close clear memory and try it.

Tofflemire

 

[Guest0527211403]

Ah, that's something different.

Apologies, I brought up two questions at the same time.

In the format, dimensions are called as you suggested, Tofflemire.

In the drawing, however, I want to put in some notes that reference params from the layout. I can't declare a drawing to a layout, so I figured if my assembly was declared to the layout, all the layout params became de facto assembly params... So I would just point to the appropriate component and then I can use it's parameters. But that's not working out as well as I had hoped.

The workaround I've mentioned is a bit tedious and adds an extra layer of stuff that can go wrong (potentially), but I think it's the only way to go. I don't have KB access(for now) so I don't know if there's an established solution.

Cheers & thank you