auzie5
Mechanical
- May 8, 2009
- 94
CSA Z662-15 Clause 10.10.8.3 provides equations for evaluating small buckles, ripples, wrinkles. It requires that the user input the crest-to-trough height and the “maximum operating stress”.
Should the “maximum operating stress” used to evaluate a buckle be:
a) Hoop Stress
b) Longitudinal compressive stress
c) Combined stress (Hoop & Longitudinal)
I thought that "combined stress" was the obvious answer since it accounted for axial loading (which seems like an obvious thing to be concerned with when evaluating a buckle).
However when I checked against B31.4 Para 451.6.2.8, I noticed that B31.4 explicitly states that the “maximum operating hoops stress” be used.
The formulas are exactly the same in CSA Z662-15 versus B31.4 as follows:
CSA Z662-15 / B31.4:
For pipe with “maximum operating stress (S)” between 20 ksi and 30 ksi:
A feature (ripples, wrinkles, and buckles) are considered to be a defect when the crest-to-trough height results in a ratio to outside diameter greater than
h/d < 0.01 x [(30 – S)/10 + 1]
So why is longitudinal stress not considered in the equation? For a pipeline operating at:
• Operating Pressure = 9,930 kPa
• Operating Temperature = 85 deg C
• Installation Temperature = 15 deg C
The resulting stresses are:
• Hoop Stress = 212.4 MPa
• Longitudinal Compressive Stress = -110.16 MPa
• Combined Stress = 322.56 MPa
Can we really only use hoop stress for the formula noted above? How can we not take longitudinal compressive stress into consideration when evaluating a buckle feature (seems counterintuitive). Or maybe B31.4 never realized we would be designing lines to operate at 85 deg C where the lines are subjected to a significant compressive stress?
I trust I am missing something here since B31.4 is usually a reliable source to clarify confusion found in CSA Z662.
Should the “maximum operating stress” used to evaluate a buckle be:
a) Hoop Stress
b) Longitudinal compressive stress
c) Combined stress (Hoop & Longitudinal)
I thought that "combined stress" was the obvious answer since it accounted for axial loading (which seems like an obvious thing to be concerned with when evaluating a buckle).
However when I checked against B31.4 Para 451.6.2.8, I noticed that B31.4 explicitly states that the “maximum operating hoops stress” be used.
The formulas are exactly the same in CSA Z662-15 versus B31.4 as follows:
CSA Z662-15 / B31.4:
For pipe with “maximum operating stress (S)” between 20 ksi and 30 ksi:
A feature (ripples, wrinkles, and buckles) are considered to be a defect when the crest-to-trough height results in a ratio to outside diameter greater than
h/d < 0.01 x [(30 – S)/10 + 1]
So why is longitudinal stress not considered in the equation? For a pipeline operating at:
• Operating Pressure = 9,930 kPa
• Operating Temperature = 85 deg C
• Installation Temperature = 15 deg C
The resulting stresses are:
• Hoop Stress = 212.4 MPa
• Longitudinal Compressive Stress = -110.16 MPa
• Combined Stress = 322.56 MPa
Can we really only use hoop stress for the formula noted above? How can we not take longitudinal compressive stress into consideration when evaluating a buckle feature (seems counterintuitive). Or maybe B31.4 never realized we would be designing lines to operate at 85 deg C where the lines are subjected to a significant compressive stress?
I trust I am missing something here since B31.4 is usually a reliable source to clarify confusion found in CSA Z662.