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Flare-bevel-gorve PJP Inspection

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fabengr

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I am working on a job where the design engineer has called for a Flare-bevel-gorve weld with a specific effective throat (a PJP weld).
I cannot find in the D1.1 how to measure the weld once it has been placed. This project is subjected to a great deal of inspection.
These are HSS 8x8x5/8 members.
 
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AISC Section J2.1a and Table J2.2 define the assumed effective throat for flare bevel groove welds as follows:
GMAW and FCAW-G weld process 5/8 R
SMAW and FCAW-S weld process 5/16 R
SAW weld process 5/16 R
R = radius of joint surface ( can be assumed to be 2t for HSS)
These values assume that the weld is filled flush to the surface of a round bar or a 90 degree bend in a formed section or rectangular HSS.
Larger effective throats than shown in Table J2.2 are permitted for a given welding procedure specification (WPS) provided the fabricator can establish by qualification the consistent production of such larger effective throat.
 
You can't measure the effective throat after the weld is 'old and cold'. You *have* to know what the joint geometry was at the time the root was welded. With tube-steel, the as-fabricated radius can be measured after the face. But you don't know what the fit-up gap was [so you are forced to assume a zero gap - smaller throat], and you don't know how much penetration the welder got when he/she ran the root [so you are forced to assume that the penetration was zero].

Fit-up and In-process inspections by knowlegable welding inspectors is invaluable for PJP's. After the fact, it takes a very good ultrasound tech to determine the depth of penetration & effective throat, and the steel adjacent to the tested welds will need to be smooth and clean to allow good scanning by the shearwave transducer.

In-process inspections usually save money. Inspections of 'old and cold' welds cost money; sometimes a lot of money, when defects are found that happened again & again. A good welder is repetitive - the welds will be almost all good, or almost all bad. Kind of late when all the welding is done.
 
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