VoyageofDiscovery
Structural
- Apr 7, 2002
- 615
I have seen all the books explain Ka and Kp beneath the excavation. I would like to question this as I am computer modelling sheetpiles with springs.
I understand Kp as the limit of a soil's capacity to an applied pressure, and that the spring constant is limited by this value at any given depth. That being said, Ka and Kp should not exist together as Newtons Law says for every force there is an equal and opposite reaction.
This being said, as I am modelling my scenario, whether I use Ka pressures or not below the excavation depth, I do not get the pressures at the Kp limit, this makes sense.
When I use Ka pressure values below the bottom of excavation, I get spring reactions which give me pressures within Kp resistance allowing for a factor of safety of 2 but my sheetpile toe is kicking out. What gives? When I do not use Ka pressure values below the bottom of excavation, my toe does not kick out.
Driving flexible sheetpiles into level ground should result in a net zero pressure. Thus below the excavation there should be no net earth pressure as they cancel out? In an excavated situation should not the pressures below the bottom of excavation then originate from above the bottom of excavation through the soil structure interaction.
My geotechnical engineer has told me the active zone is drawn 45-phi/2 from vertical originating at the BASE of the excavation, and he still thinks in terms of Ka and Kp.
This has driven me crazy over the years.
VOD
I understand Kp as the limit of a soil's capacity to an applied pressure, and that the spring constant is limited by this value at any given depth. That being said, Ka and Kp should not exist together as Newtons Law says for every force there is an equal and opposite reaction.
This being said, as I am modelling my scenario, whether I use Ka pressures or not below the excavation depth, I do not get the pressures at the Kp limit, this makes sense.
When I use Ka pressure values below the bottom of excavation, I get spring reactions which give me pressures within Kp resistance allowing for a factor of safety of 2 but my sheetpile toe is kicking out. What gives? When I do not use Ka pressure values below the bottom of excavation, my toe does not kick out.
Driving flexible sheetpiles into level ground should result in a net zero pressure. Thus below the excavation there should be no net earth pressure as they cancel out? In an excavated situation should not the pressures below the bottom of excavation then originate from above the bottom of excavation through the soil structure interaction.
My geotechnical engineer has told me the active zone is drawn 45-phi/2 from vertical originating at the BASE of the excavation, and he still thinks in terms of Ka and Kp.
This has driven me crazy over the years.
VOD