Fueling on unleveled ground problem

[Equestion]

Good day

I am after a MIL spec that states something related to fuelling on unlevelled aprons.

Some background on the problem I’m working on:
I want to establish a Fuelling procedure, I have looked at various fuelling scenarios and how it shifts the CG in the Lateral and Longitudinal axis, but now I am trying to “simulate” / calculate theoretically a worst case fuelling schedule on the unlevelled ground.

Hope someone can help me with something?

Kind regards


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[berkshire]

Worst case scenario fueling on unlevel ground so one wing is higher than the other. Aircraft has fuel feed to both tanks . You fill the lower wing tank first, then when you fill the higher wing tank the crossfeed dumps the fuel you are putting in, out of the overflow on the low wing making a mess on the ground and creating a fire hazard.
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[IRstuff]

There is a procedure described on page 86 in

http://quicksearch.dla.mil/qsDocDetails.aspx?ident_number=108512

for refueling on significant slopes

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[WKTaylor]

Equestion... RE refueling operations.

Presume that the fuel is turbine [Jet-A?] NOT Avgas?

Refueling temperature range -65F to +160F? Wind conditions? This affects landing gear struts and fuel-level sensing, etc.

Are you developing an Acft refueling system for a fixed-wing or rotary wing DoD or civilian Acft? IF DoD which service and is it tactical/non-tactical? IF FAA, is it under or over 12500# GTW?

Is your fuel system intended to be: (a) ground single point pressure refueling; or (b) 'over-wing' gravity refueling [thru 'gas-caps']; and (c) Aerial refueling; or all of these?

NOTE.
All refueling systems have added complexity RE over-flow venting, quantity measurement and static electricity dissipation.

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[WKTaylor]

IR... Never considered why USN/USMC have a MIL-HDBK for this subject...

However... refueling on a pitching-rolling-yawing deck under high sea/wind conditions must present unique challenges!

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[IRstuff]

Their VTOL and VSTOL craft potentially could land anywhere short of tipping the aircraft over.

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[rb1957]

well that applies to any plane (surely?) ...

I'd've thought the major impact of fueling on a slopping surface is how much fuel you can get in (or how much you can't) before the fuel level reaches the refueling hole (ie the plane is intended to refuel on a flat, horizontal, surface).

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[WKTaylor]

Equestion seems to have 'gone silent' on this subject...

Regards, Wil Taylor

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