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Grounding on Bed rock

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tinotoro

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Nov 2, 2005
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I ran across this closed thread and would like to know what was the outcome. What is the solution that was implemented?
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You may find the history and theory of ufer grounding interesting;
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ufer_ground[/URL]]History
During World War II, the U.S. Army required a grounding system for bomb storage vaults near Tucson and Flagstaff, Arizona. Conventional grounding systems did not work well in this location since the desert terrain had no water table and very little rainfall. The extremely dry soil conditions would have required hundreds of feet of copper rods to be inserted into the ground in order to create a low enough impedance ground to protect the buildings from lightning strikes
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Ufer discovered that concrete had better conductivity than most types of soil. Ufer then developed a grounding scheme based on encasing the grounding conductors in concrete. This method proved to be very effective, and was implemented throughout the Arizona test site.
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Concrete is naturally basic (has high pH). Ufer observed this meant that it had a ready supply of ions and so provides a better electrical ground than almost any type of soil. Ufer also found that the soil around the concrete became "doped", and its subsequent rise in pH caused the overall impedance of the soil itself to be reduced.[3] The concrete enclosure also increases the surface area of the connection between the grounding conductor and the surrounding soil, which also helps to reduce the overall impedance of the connection

Bill
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"Why not the best?"
Jimmy Carter
 
Thanks. Is it possible to ask to the thread originator what was the outcome of his inquiry?
 
If you look at the first post you will see that it was posted by so0774.
If you click on the handle/name (so0774) you will find:
"My last login was on Sunday, October 5, 2008"
I don't think he is active any more.

Bill
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"Why not the best?"
Jimmy Carter
 
Up in Iowa, they pound grounding rods 30 ft into the ground so the grounding is not affected by frost. Frost depth is like 3 ft there. I suppose you could do is run a counterpoise to another grounding grid to draw off ground current, make the grounding grind big, use GEM, go down until you hit the water table, or just have everyone wear rubber boots . There was someone here that posted that in places like Siberia, it is sometimes hard to get good grounding and you just live with what you can get.
 
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