Continue to Site

Eng-Tips is the largest engineering community on the Internet

Intelligent Work Forums for Engineering Professionals

  • Congratulations SSS148 on being selected by the Eng-Tips community for having the most helpful posts in the forums last week. Way to Go!

Gypsum within clay soils below foundation

Status
Not open for further replies.

eric1037

Geotechnical
Jul 12, 2004
376
Hi all!

I currently have two projects about 1 mile from each other in which we encountered isolated, gravel-size gypsum pieces with a clay matrix.

I know gypsum is relatively common in the rock in the area, but I have some concerns and I would like to hash them out on this forum to see if they are founded.

First, I have a concern that if the gypsum is exposed to water, it will dissolve and create voids. However, since this is a clay matrix with no visible fissures, etc. and the gypsum was encountered below about 10 feet. I'm not sure if I should be concerned.

Second, I seem to recall that gypsum, if dissolved, can actually break down the bonds within the clay structure. This may not be a problem if the gypsum doesn't dissolve.

Third, I seem to recall reading somewhere that the presence of gypsum may be an indicator of expansive clays.

Since I am in Michigan, and expansive clays are not generally a problem, I am not overly concerned about this.

To shed some light on the types of projects:

One of the projects is a lift station. We encountered the gypsum about 5 feet below the proposed bottom of the lift station.

The second project is a building. We encountered the gypsum about 4 feet below the proposed bottom of footing elevation.

I guess I just want a reality check. Currently, I am not overly concerned about it and I will probably recommend that they keep the soils free of water during and upon completion of construction. I just want some input from others that may have experience with similar soils.

Thanks in advance!
 
Replies continue below

Recommended for you

I deal with gypsum in soils on an everyday basis. Hopefully you don't have to deal with desiccated soils and gypsum cementation.
Please describe your soil profile (UCS, density, moisture %), amount of gypsum, is the gypsum also present as a 'caliche', water table (if known), and the real possibility of surface & near surface water migrating through the foundation soil.
 
Soil profile consists of the following:

0-3' Very Stiff Brown Sandy Clay fill

3'-12.5' Very Stiff Brown Sandy Clay. Shear Strength 2.5 to 3.0 tsf. Moisture content 11.0 to 12.0%

12.5'-17.5' Very loose, gray, fine Sand. N-value of 3.

17.5'-22.0' Hard, gray, sandy Clay, trace gravel. Shear Strength 4.0 tsf

22.0'-32.0' Stiff gray, silty clay, occasional gypsum fragments. Shear Strength 2.0 tsf. Moisture content 22.2%

32.0'-35.0' Stiff gray, silty clay, with gypsum layers. Shear Strength 2.0 tsf.

Groundwater during drilling was recorded at 13.0 ft. I think it is perched in the fine sand layer.

I don't really think caliche-type materials are present. I wouldn't really expect them in this area anyway.

Since much of the soil is clay, I wouldn't expect there to be much migration after the lift station is constructed. However,during construction there is a possibility of water getting down to the gypsum.

The design bottom of the lift station is located at 30 feet.

Thanks for the assistance!
 
fndn
Excellent link!!! I am printing it out so I can study it tonight.
eric1037
I will return to your question later, as I have a few clients who think I should get onto their problems.

The Soil Scientists (I am very fortunate to have an 'old' NRCS man in my hire) can be a tremendous resource. While they are growing things and we are not, a tremendous amount of information applicable to Geotechnical Engineering can be had. All it takes is a little interpretation and asking a few questions. 30 to 50 years ago, the 2 fields talked to one-another. We need to regain the familiarity.
 
Be aware that gypsum is a polymorph of selenite (and Vica versa) that has been partially attributed to sulphate attack on concrete in the UK. Read Building Reaserch Establishment (BRE Special Digest 1 ' Concrete in Aggressive Gound' 3rd edition 2005)
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Part and Inventory Search

Sponsor