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HELP-Can't add any more features

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begnor

Automotive
Jul 13, 2004
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I have a part that will not add any more features to it. There was an original rib feature that I wanted to modify to add more ribs. I open the sketch, add the needed rectangels, close the sketch and immediatly get a topographical error. I tried removing one rectangle I thought may have caused it, no dice. I tried deleting the feature, and adding all the ribs in with a boolean as their own body, nope. I removed all the draft and chamfer/fillets from the ribs and tried that, nope. I used CATDUA to clean the part, and there were only 4 errors that were all successfully fixed. I have ran the full update with the Scan, and the entire part reupdates with no issues, warnings or errors. The part was just fine on Friday. I can not put a rib that or a cutout that works back into the base part. I can extend material away from the part, but that will not help me. If someone wants to look at the part itself, let me know and we can figure out a way to get it to you.

edit: Here's the text of the clean report


Cleaning file in V5R16SP4: -- /home/begnor//WINDAGE_10-01R_bezel.CATPart.cleaner_traces.txt --
Creation date (Month/Day/Year) :11/12/2007
###### Report For Check Process #####
Rule :1 (LIF_1) => The element 'Point On Edge' of type 'FeaturePOINTONEDGE' is not aggregated and not pointed.
--> Can be fixed.
--> Priority Level : 1

Rule :2 (LIF_1) => The element 'Edge' of type 'FeatureREDGE' is not aggregated and not pointed.
--> Can be fixed.
--> Priority Level : 1

Rule :3 (FGM_1) => GeoFactory#9 needs fat geometries cleaning.
--> Can be fixed.
--> Priority Level : 3

Rule :4 (FGM_1) => GeoFactory#9 needs fat geometries cleaning.
--> Can be fixed.
--> Priority Level : 3




###### End of Report For Check Process #####

###### Report For Clean Process #####

Rule # 1 (LIF_1) => The element 'Point On Edge' is cleaned.
Rule # 2 (LIF_1) => The element 'Edge' is cleaned.
Rule # 3 (FGM_1) => Fat geometries cleaning on GeoFactory#9 successful.
Rule # 4 (FGM_1) => Fat geometries cleaning on GeoFactory#9 successful.Fat geometries cleaning on GeoFactory#9 successful.

+---------------------------------+
| Global Results |
+----------+----------------------+
| | Errors |
+ Priority +-------+--------------+
| | Found | Fixed |
+----------+-------+--------------+
| Level 1 | 2 | 2 |
+----------+-------+--------------+
| LIF_1 | 2 | 2 |
+----------+-------+--------------+
| Level 3 | 2 | 2 |
+----------+-------+--------------+
| FGM_1 | 2 | 2 |
+----------+-------+--------------+


Return codes fixed : 4/4

###### End of Report For Clean Process #####
 
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can you insert a screen shot of your part and include the tree. I'm also curious which feature is currently underlined (the work object).

I'm sure your problem is due to something simple. How long have you been using CATIA? Do you have a coworker who can look over your shoulder and help you?
 
I have sometimes experienced strange behavior with catia and the medicine was the same for those cases, delete catsettings
 
jackk, it hasn't seemed to matter what part of the body the in work object has been. I got the same error when adding to the end of the tree when the body was the object, or trying to insert features farther back. I've been on V5 for about 5 years now. It's a pretty big tree, I don't think it will fit in one screen shot. I can tell you it's a combination of straight line modeling and boolean operators, mostly Union Trims.

Azrael, it looks like dumping catsettings, as well as the rest of the cat directories may have helped, but now it may be a problem with our new server. I was unable to launch an HD2 license for 2 days, and had to re-delete all the directories and reboot this morning. At least now I can start V5 again, so I'll have to look at getting back to the problem child.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Here's a jpg with a partial view of th tree
 
 http://files.engineering.com/getfile.aspx?folder=bddba869-471c-4db5-9535-252375ed4e6b&file=bezel.jpg
Begnor... thanks for the screen shot. I thought you were a rookie user; but with 5 years experience and after looking at how well all the features were named, you are no rookie!

So, you're getting a topographic error? To me, that means some impossible geometric condition. Is your sketch good? (closed profiles, valid projections, etc)

Does this error occur with every feature to try to add? or just when you use this sketch?

You say you have multiple rectangles in the sketch: do they overlap? What happens with just one rectangle?

You didn't mistakenly choose the thick option in the PAD command?

 
That's what has me stumped. I had a working sketch before, with 3 rectangles all closed. I went back into the sketch to add an additional 3, and that's when the topo error started. If I flip the direction, to extend the material away from the front of the part everything was OK. Going back was a no-no. I couldn't use till next, so I moved the pad to another body and attempted a Union Trim, same problem. Oh, and no the rectangles didn't overlap, they were adjacent to the original rectangles.

I don't know what I did, but now the part(s, there were two models that gave the same error) has straightened up and is flying right. Maybe I just wasn't holding my mouth right before..... I don't know. If the problem persisits, I will come back to this thread with an update.
 
sometimes just exiting CATIA and restarting is the best way to fix things. Glad to hear it's working again for you
 
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