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Help with coil to magnet ratio please

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Z generator

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Dec 26, 2019
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I’ve been working on this generator for a few years, here are the photos of it. This generator has no stator. The coils spin one way and the magnet harness/bearing spins the opposite directing double it the magnetic flux contact.. the generator dubbed “ Zero State generator“ has two coils and two magnet harness. Message if you have any questions. I used fusion cad to design this. My good computer crashed and the computer I have now can’t load the design because it’s not capable.. so I’m waiting for my good computer to be fixed.

Also I’ve never posted on a forum before let me know if the pics came out nice, I can take more. Thanks to all.

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Why?
It's a great project to hone your building skills and your shop skills but doesn't do much for your electrical or magnetic knowledge.
I sincerly hope that I have drastically misunderstood what you have done and are going to do.
Otherwise it's time for tough love.
I anticipate very low output.
Induced voltage is related to flux density.
Flux density is related to Magneto Motive Force divided by the length of the flux circuit.
For a simple electro-magnet we use Amp turns per inch of magnetic circuit.
But the inches are weighted inches.
The permeability of iron is about 50,000 times that of air, so an inch of air is equivalent to 50,000 inches of iron.
Another issue that has misled newbies in the past, the term "cutting flux".
This term is used to describe relative movement between areas of differing flux density.
That is the movement is such that the flux density in the coil is either increasing or decreasing.
A coil moving parallel to the lines of flux doesn't "cut" it.
By the way, efficiencies of conventional generators are in the high 90%s.
The weight may be reduced for a given output by spinning faster (higher frequency) and then electronically converting the frequency down to a more useful frequency.
That said, the work that you have done is impressive.
The skills that you have perfected will be very valuable in your future pursuits, but maybe not for generators.

Bill
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"Why not the best?"
Jimmy Carter
 
Hey thanks I appreciate any (especially Honest) info.
Just to clear something up, my goal is not a perpetual motion device.

I have a comprehension difficulty when I read things. I’ve read a lot and watched a lot about coils and magnets, but the concept of electrons being charged and “pushed” through copper wire in a direction and “speed” Determined by the ratio/size of magnets to coil.

Also not very good at explaining this concept because of lack in terminology on my part..

The bearing in the photo I sent has 4 separate races:
starting with smallest bearing, has 3 phase coil
Next is the inner magnet harness which consist of two rows of magnets
3rd has the large coil in which only half is printed and shown in the photos.. the one half on the coil took 74 hours to print at .1mm with a .2mm nozzle.
The last bearing run holds the outer magnet harness these are cross roller slew bearings, they will move counter of each other driven by a planetary gear assembly.(only one of those gears in picture in orange on the inner most bearing)

I stopped printing things because I need to understand how magnetic fields react with electrons. I’m reaching out after a lot of trial and error. looking for someone to explain in a simple way, and it’s going to take kore than one example, just a heads up... if you want to help thanks, if not no worries.

There is probably 60% of the generator in the photos. It is fully designed on fusion 360. But I need my better computer to make modifications, and took a long break from this project for other projects.

If you have fusion 360 I believe I can share the design with whoever. This is just a design that came to my mind and wouldn’t leave me alone so I spent a very long time watching and reading just to learn how to use fusion 360. Got a cheap clone FDM printer and just started. Have been Learning but my brother suggested reaching out online and I’m anti social, except when I’m medicating, so here I am... But hey to each their own.

Again thanks for the help and thanks for the compliment.
 
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Bill
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"Why not the best?"
Jimmy Carter
 
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