WKTaylor
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- Sep 24, 2001
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guys...
I am have a problem with grease lubricated plain-flanged bearings. Flanged bearings are inserted in both ends of a 300-KSI steel MLG hole. The bearing ends are spaced ~0.160 apart on installation, forming a grease channel around the circumference; and a lube hole was drilled to this gap thru the fitting. The CuBe bearings are ~3.875 OD in ~0.003--0.005 interference; while the ID is line-bored [all bushing bores] to 3.625 ID, 32-microinch RA
Problem: one customer has noted all of the bushings in their installations slowly rotate over time. Our judgment is that the potential for corrosion damage to the steel housing bore is high and the bushings must be removed/replaced when ANY rotation is noted [restoring corrosion protection]. Needless to say the customer is living with rotation... and now wants "limits" to allow some rotation.
We have altered the installation design in numerous small but significant ways [bearing alloy hardness, interference, etc]; and the customer has added grease grooves [better sread-around the grease... but the problem persists.
Do certain customers tend to have unique circumstances of operation, such that these unique issues can arise? Or do You think other customers are not noting/reporting these small rotations?
Also I am looking for ways to reduce shaft rotational friction loading and/or increasing bearing OD to housing ID friction [for bearing retention].
NOTE. Years ago I had a situation, where the finish pattern on the bushing IDs apparently met drawing requirements [64-microinch RA final]; however, wear-out and eventual high friction [bearings finally spinning] were troubling. Finally the OEM engineers stepped in and indicated that a distinct cross-hatched surface finish had been developed and applied to the drawing; but was hard for vendors to attain without ball-honing of the bearing IDs starting at 32-RA [after bearing IDs had been line-bored]. The cross-hatching helped retain/distribute grease, and was well within the 64-RA-microinch limit noted on the drawing. The solution was fairly easy: install bushings in interference; line-bore the IDs to same dimension; then quickly ball-brush hone the bearing IDs to break sharp edges and attain the cross-hatched finish. After this was instituted, the premature wear issues went away [unless the ball-brush honing was omitted].
Anyone have advice??? I have looked in our design manuals... only a brief discussion of machined surface finish for bushing IDs: however, it is assumed that a 32-RA finish was the cure-all. After this there was very little discussion of plain bearing problems/resolutions.
Regards, Wil Taylor
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I am have a problem with grease lubricated plain-flanged bearings. Flanged bearings are inserted in both ends of a 300-KSI steel MLG hole. The bearing ends are spaced ~0.160 apart on installation, forming a grease channel around the circumference; and a lube hole was drilled to this gap thru the fitting. The CuBe bearings are ~3.875 OD in ~0.003--0.005 interference; while the ID is line-bored [all bushing bores] to 3.625 ID, 32-microinch RA
Problem: one customer has noted all of the bushings in their installations slowly rotate over time. Our judgment is that the potential for corrosion damage to the steel housing bore is high and the bushings must be removed/replaced when ANY rotation is noted [restoring corrosion protection]. Needless to say the customer is living with rotation... and now wants "limits" to allow some rotation.
We have altered the installation design in numerous small but significant ways [bearing alloy hardness, interference, etc]; and the customer has added grease grooves [better sread-around the grease... but the problem persists.
Do certain customers tend to have unique circumstances of operation, such that these unique issues can arise? Or do You think other customers are not noting/reporting these small rotations?
Also I am looking for ways to reduce shaft rotational friction loading and/or increasing bearing OD to housing ID friction [for bearing retention].
NOTE. Years ago I had a situation, where the finish pattern on the bushing IDs apparently met drawing requirements [64-microinch RA final]; however, wear-out and eventual high friction [bearings finally spinning] were troubling. Finally the OEM engineers stepped in and indicated that a distinct cross-hatched surface finish had been developed and applied to the drawing; but was hard for vendors to attain without ball-honing of the bearing IDs starting at 32-RA [after bearing IDs had been line-bored]. The cross-hatching helped retain/distribute grease, and was well within the 64-RA-microinch limit noted on the drawing. The solution was fairly easy: install bushings in interference; line-bore the IDs to same dimension; then quickly ball-brush hone the bearing IDs to break sharp edges and attain the cross-hatched finish. After this was instituted, the premature wear issues went away [unless the ball-brush honing was omitted].
Anyone have advice??? I have looked in our design manuals... only a brief discussion of machined surface finish for bushing IDs: however, it is assumed that a 32-RA finish was the cure-all. After this there was very little discussion of plain bearing problems/resolutions.
Regards, Wil Taylor
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