hole vs hole wizard vs constrained circle

[dgiy]

Anyone have any rules of thumb regarding how you determine whether you will use

hole or hole wizard or constrained circle/cut extrude when putting in a hole featue.

Additionally....

When I use the hole wizard I usually create a sketch of points and constrain/dimension them. Then I use these points to place the hole wizard holes. Is there a "better" way that I don't know about.

Hoping for some interesting answers!

Thanks,
DG

 

[TheTick]

One frustration I've had with the hole wizard is that the position point sketch is a 3D sketch. This eliminates some constraint options (most notably symmetry). This is what sometimes forces me to create a layout sketch in advance.

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[dsi]

In addition to that, the hole wizard takes up more memory because it stores more information for each feature. This may not be that big of a deal for some, but we can have thousands of holes. Needless to say, it makes a huge difference.

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[SBaugh]

Pick the face that you want to place the holes on too. Then pick HW, and pick your type of hole. Click "Next" and even with the menu up, this were you want to make your sketch. Drop more points in (if you need them), add centerlines if you need them, and Dimensions to constrain them. Once you have the sketch the way you want it click finish. This saves you from having to do the sketch twice and waste your time redoing something that should only take one time.

If you don't pick the face or plane first, and pick HW first, it will go into 3D sketch (Like your describing Tick). HW isn't smart enough to know what you want to do unless you pick or don't pick a face or plane to start with.

Regards,

Scott Baugh, CSWP
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[dgiy]

Thanks all.

Do you guys use the hole feature(not Hole wizard) or do you use constrained circle/extruded cut?

Scott,
I didn't realize you could insert the sketch when it asked you to select the points. Thanks for pointing this out.

Is this different from creating the sketch on the plane of interest first, and then just selecting points when asked via the HW?

Thanks,
DG

 

[MadMango]

I use Hole Wizard when I know I have lots of hardware going into the holes, or it is a defined pattern.

I use cut-extrude sketches for singular holes, or holes that do not have a defined pattern.

I do not use Hole Feature. Also related, when I work on hydraulic manifolds I use Library features for the cavities.

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[SBaugh]

It's just like creating a sketch on a plane or face. It's just that you do it after specifing the hole type and face or plane to put the sketch.

I personally used to use just the cut-extrude for most part when making holes (old school I guess), but the HW is much better for use in drawings, because if the hole changes (such as a tapped hole thread class) the Hole callout will update all the info accordingly unlike a regular dimension of a hole.

I hope that made some sense?

Regards

Scott Baugh, CSWP
3DVision Technologies

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http://www.scottjbaugh.com

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[TheTick]

D'oh! There it is. Thanks, Scott.

 

[rash74]

IF you designing part that have more than one holes and going to used part in assembly,It's good idea to use hole wizard because it makes it very easy to apply hardware in assembly.