how to design a swimming pool? 4

[designengraust]

hi, i m a new user of this forum. but i have a problem to design a swimming pool. so pls help me to solve the design procedure of swimming pool.give me the detail procedure while designing a swimming pool.

 

[racookpe1978]

Hmmmn.

What size? What application above, below ground, personal, commercial, apartment, municipal? Where? What country? How many people? What's your water source? Cleaning requirements? What other facilities are going to be going in nearby: washing rooms, changing rooms, showers, gyms?

Go do your homework = Check your local swimming pool dealers and country, state, county, and city reg's. Even the locks on the fences and gates on the typical swimming pools are regulated. You don't know enough to start with this kind of question.

 

[ishvaaag]

Usually here for dwellings and small number of users special services' firms build the pools. They have learnt to make them cheap, but from an engineering viewpoint they are unsatisfactory structures.

A well engineered swimming pool needs the vase be built usually in reinforced concrete as any basement would. You need check for the case of the pool full and void. Should use concrete with waterproofing additives, or in whatever the way ensure no leaks will affect the surrounding buildings, what is a standing cause of unforeseen settlement problems worldwide.

The same care needs be taken with its water supply and outflow, and the details where lights are embedded in the walls etc. You should test the pool for leaks, and if found call a firm specialized in making the vase tight.

Even with crack control checks and additives for impermeabilization, actual waterproofing of the vases uses to be discharged on some inner layer of water proofing mortar or paint. This can be the same finish or have tile finishing on it.

Do not set excessive watering at their surroundings, and control the sewage water of outdoor showers; pools use to have specific regulations (at least here). The excessive presence of water around swimming pools may be even a more popular cause of heave/ground washing/soil disruption than pool's leakage, with similar consequences.

 

[MaddEngineer]

I think you have to be a little more specific...

Will this be an in-ground pool or an above ground pool.

If it is above ground will it be supported directly by soil or will it be supported by floor or roof framing.

Will the pool be constructed from wood, metal or concrete...

Also what is the proposed depth of the pool.

 

[Ron]

Come on Guys!! It doesn't matter how much info he gives us, we're not going to tell him in a forum how to fully design a pool....he doesn't even know enough to get started as racookpe1978 pointed out.

designengraust....you need to get someone locally to help you to learn the process of designing swimming pools. It isn't something you can learn from a few posts in a forum.

 

[msquared48]

When you are done with your design, just make sure it holds water.

Mike McCann
MMC Engineering

 

[rowingengineer]

I agree with ron,

but if your looking for a some reading on the topic:
AS1838 and AS2783.

When in doubt, just take the next small step.

 

[csd72]

assuming that you are in Australia than you should follow rowingengineers advice.

If it is domestic, then use the residential swimming pool code, if it is commercial then technically you need to use the liquid retaining structures code.

The walls are designed similar to a retaining wall with soil/water loads as applicable. You also have to limit rebar stresses to minimise cracking.

Good luck.

 

[spats]

I don't know where you're from, but here in the US, pool design is high liability because of frequent lawsuits. Any little thing that goes wrong, including poor soils & shoddy construction... any little crack, often comes back to haunt the structural engineer. In my opinion, it's something to stay away from.

I've had pool contractors come to me, wanting me to be "their structural engineer for all their pools", but I think they just want a fall guy if something goes wrong. They also cannot understand why you won't sign & seal their own designs, since they've been "successfully building them that way for years". Don't fall for it. If you're really serious about getting into the pool design business, you better learn your stuff, and stick to your guns when it comes to proper design.

By the way, I tried to research the subject on several occasions, and was unable to find good design guideance I was confortable with.

 

[BAretired]

Perhaps you should advise your client that you do not have the faintest idea of how to proceed with the design of his swimming pool and that he should retain the services of a more experienced engineer.

BA

 

[csd72]

Our OP seemes to have gone AWOL.

 

[MaddEngineer]

Visit the following site (Association of Pool and Spa Professionals formerly the National Pool and Spa Institute) and purchase their standards ANSI/APSP-3 and/or ANSI/APSP-5

http://www.apsp.org/

Also Architectural Graphic Standards has some preliminary guidelines, they are based on the APSP Standards.