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Lusxolar,
Based on your last attempt to post a question on this topic, and the resulting confusion due to your wording, I was hoping that this new post would clarify your wording. It seems your post has been re-posted verbatim, so we will start again. Could you attempt as best you can to explain the objective you have for your aircraft warning lights? I completely understand if you require translation assistance and will do what I can to accommodate this. I will guess at the meaning of your question, which is not clear.
One thing I can suggest: don't just use Google Translate to convert your words to english - also convert those english words back into your own language. The result can be very amusing! But it also helps you refine your wording and clarify your question in the other language. This website also offers assistance with translation. We want to help.
My first guess at the answer to your question: Your government specifies the requirements for lighting on elevated structures that could pose a threat to aircraft. When taller than a certain height, lighting is required so that the structure can be seen by aircraft pilots at night. Every government has its own structure - I do not know how India structures its government, but if it's anything like the United Kingdom which had many influences on the parliament, then there should be a Minister for Transport. Start with that website.
My second guess: There are international standards for lighting the runways, taxiways, approaches and areas surrounding airports, and it is true that ICAO sets the standard. However, the Minister for Transport enforces these rules in your country, so again: Start with their website.
STF
Based on your last attempt to post a question on this topic, and the resulting confusion due to your wording, I was hoping that this new post would clarify your wording. It seems your post has been re-posted verbatim, so we will start again. Could you attempt as best you can to explain the objective you have for your aircraft warning lights? I completely understand if you require translation assistance and will do what I can to accommodate this. I will guess at the meaning of your question, which is not clear.
One thing I can suggest: don't just use Google Translate to convert your words to english - also convert those english words back into your own language. The result can be very amusing! But it also helps you refine your wording and clarify your question in the other language. This website also offers assistance with translation. We want to help.
My first guess at the answer to your question: Your government specifies the requirements for lighting on elevated structures that could pose a threat to aircraft. When taller than a certain height, lighting is required so that the structure can be seen by aircraft pilots at night. Every government has its own structure - I do not know how India structures its government, but if it's anything like the United Kingdom which had many influences on the parliament, then there should be a Minister for Transport. Start with that website.
My second guess: There are international standards for lighting the runways, taxiways, approaches and areas surrounding airports, and it is true that ICAO sets the standard. However, the Minister for Transport enforces these rules in your country, so again: Start with their website.
STF
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Sparweb,
Sorry for not have been able to clear my words in the previous post as well as this. Im based in India and in the business with a European manufacturer of ICAO certified Aircraft warning lights.
As rightly guessed by you, the authority in India to enforce such lighting on the top of towers is the Airport Authority of India under the ministry of civil aviation. Since its the ministry, they are not easily accessible and I'm keen to reach them and brief them with my knowledge to let them know that its safer in aviation to use ICAO certified lights rather than allowing local manufactures without any certifications and quality of their product to be sold in India. I was hence looking to network in such a group who could help me to reach out to the concerned authorities here in India.
I hope I have been able to explain better this time.
Regards,
Luxsolar India
Sorry for not have been able to clear my words in the previous post as well as this. Im based in India and in the business with a European manufacturer of ICAO certified Aircraft warning lights.
As rightly guessed by you, the authority in India to enforce such lighting on the top of towers is the Airport Authority of India under the ministry of civil aviation. Since its the ministry, they are not easily accessible and I'm keen to reach them and brief them with my knowledge to let them know that its safer in aviation to use ICAO certified lights rather than allowing local manufactures without any certifications and quality of their product to be sold in India. I was hence looking to network in such a group who could help me to reach out to the concerned authorities here in India.
I hope I have been able to explain better this time.
Regards,
Luxsolar India
Thank you that is more clear.
If you are already in the business of making/selling these lights, you should have some idea who is responsible for government standards. If the only thing you want to do is promote a product, then you should be contacting an advertiser, not your local government.
If you think the rules are the problem, and you want to address a safety problem, and you can't find any other way to communicate, sometimes all you can do is walk through the front door of the building, and ask to speak to someone. Since the first person you speak to won't understand your question or your point (for the very reason that they are the first person you speak to) you can at least get them to tell you who you can speak to next. After about 6 referrals you will either give up or fail. This method can be made to work, if you have a lot of patience. I have used it (in Canada and I believe it works in the USA, the UK and France but I have no way to tell if it works in India) to get questions answered a few times when I had a problem on a few occasions.
Whoever you speak to, perhaps you could start by describing the deficiencies in the lighting systems you have seen, and how they differ from the standard you prefer. It would be important to describe the deficiencies in terms of safety, and not in terms of money.
STF
If you are already in the business of making/selling these lights, you should have some idea who is responsible for government standards. If the only thing you want to do is promote a product, then you should be contacting an advertiser, not your local government.
If you think the rules are the problem, and you want to address a safety problem, and you can't find any other way to communicate, sometimes all you can do is walk through the front door of the building, and ask to speak to someone. Since the first person you speak to won't understand your question or your point (for the very reason that they are the first person you speak to) you can at least get them to tell you who you can speak to next. After about 6 referrals you will either give up or fail. This method can be made to work, if you have a lot of patience. I have used it (in Canada and I believe it works in the USA, the UK and France but I have no way to tell if it works in India) to get questions answered a few times when I had a problem on a few occasions.
Whoever you speak to, perhaps you could start by describing the deficiencies in the lighting systems you have seen, and how they differ from the standard you prefer. It would be important to describe the deficiencies in terms of safety, and not in terms of money.
STF
Perhaps this is what You are looking for...
IESALC - Aviation Lighting Committee formed under the Illuminating Engineering Society of North America.
from their website...
Our Mission
To study the application of light and lighting to spaces and functions involved in the operation of aircraft and spacecraft.
Who are We? We are a committee formed under the Illuminating Engineering Society of North America
The committee was started on October 21, 1929. We are a non-profit organization comprised of members from all sources of general aviation lighting specialists, including engineers, manufacturers, designers, contractors, airport authorities, federal authorities (FAA & Transport Canada), US & Canadian military and general aviation from North America and around the world. We are a non-commercial technical committee.
Regards, Wil Taylor
o Trust - But Verify!
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o Unfortunately, in science what You 'believe' is irrelevant. ["Orion", Homebuiltairplanes.com forum]
IESALC - Aviation Lighting Committee formed under the Illuminating Engineering Society of North America.
from their website...
Our Mission
To study the application of light and lighting to spaces and functions involved in the operation of aircraft and spacecraft.
Who are We? We are a committee formed under the Illuminating Engineering Society of North America
The committee was started on October 21, 1929. We are a non-profit organization comprised of members from all sources of general aviation lighting specialists, including engineers, manufacturers, designers, contractors, airport authorities, federal authorities (FAA & Transport Canada), US & Canadian military and general aviation from North America and around the world. We are a non-commercial technical committee.
Regards, Wil Taylor
o Trust - But Verify!
o We believe to be true what we prefer to be true. [Unknown]
o For those who believe, no proof is required; for those who cannot believe, no proof is possible. [variation,Stuart Chase]
o Unfortunately, in science what You 'believe' is irrelevant. ["Orion", Homebuiltairplanes.com forum]
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